Re: [www.keralites.net] Cant we Keralites survive without politically controlled government.

 

India needs a Dynamic leader who can change the present system. Only leader who realised the folly of our Democratic System was Srimathi Indira Gandhi and she tried her level best. Except Mr. VP Sathe, a veteran Advocate from Vidarbha and a Minister in her cabinet, not a single MP supported the move. If she had won her move we definitely had a different better India, anyway it cannot be worse than the present India.

On 20 July 2013 14:21, Austin Clement <ktaclement@yahoo.com> wrote:

 

Dear Mr Krishnamurthy,

You seem to be pretty happy with the present political system.If you are not, you could have made some new suggestions to improve the system. You have only criticised the suggestions made earlier.

Nevertheless, the answers to your concerns are:-

A Presidential Rule is very much possible,and there is provision in our constitution at present for the same.

The corruption levels in Judiciary and Military are much lower than that in politicians.If 80% of

politicians are corrupt it is only 10% in Judiciary&military at present and is a much lesser evil.

it is possible that they may also get corrupt with power ,in the long run. But it will take at least 30 years to reach the present level.At that time we may think of another change over.

What is important is the efficiency with which decisions are taken and progress growth is made.

No system in India can work perfect.But a system if it goes beyond repair, it needs to be changed.

Look at China ; which was a country of famines and poverty 50 years back.,Today they are aspiring to be the No.1in the world. Of course it is a dictatorial rule there.But people are made to work and are provided  with minimum amenities.

It is high time to (at least )discuss alternatives to present system to a slow and corrupt system.

with best regards,

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On 18 Jul 2013, at 12:11, Krishnamurthy V krishnam2007@gmail.com> wrote:

 

Good, instead of corrupt democracy, you demand a dictatorship government and name it as neo democracy.

Who will suspend all political parties ? President of India, you, army general, chief justice ?  It is a wind talk

Idea is good, but you have not read the system.  Panchayat raj, municipalities, corporations are having elected

representatives .  Question is ,`what they are doing`.  Same thing as MLA OR MP does in a miniature level.

Whom, you are directing to dismiss ministers.  Who is going to suspend the constitution to do this ?  Hands

are having psoriasis or skin disease--can you cut the hand?

Governance done by majority voice of elected representatives--what is new--same thing happening even today!!

I donot go deep into bureaucrats to be hunted military shall be allowed to run parallel government-because

First part, that dismissal of govt officials not happening, military is already coming under listed corrupts and

once they become alternative police, You will not be able to put your anti-establishment ideas even in net

because you will have no internet in jail

krish

On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 7:17 AM, GROUPS groupstonath@gmail.com> wrote:

 

 

Some additional suggestions:

1.    Suspend all political parties and their activities.

2.    Elect candidates from village/town/cities based on their merits

3.   These should decide issues based on majority at Parliament and advise the CEO (be it a Prime Minister/President/CEO) for execution
4.    Dismiss  all ministers and their private staff.
5.    Suspend all Trade and Labor unions based on Political parties. Union leaders are to be elected on merits and they should be employees ( not outsiders) from the respective Organisations
4.    Governance to be done by the majority voice of elected representatives.
6.   Strong judiciary to overlook all bureaucratic work as per constitution.

5.    A board of Senior officers should be given powers to terminate services of  inefficient, corrupt and indiscipline staff of all Govt organizations/Firms/police/Vigilance etc.  This will get rid of perhaps more than 50% of the current staff. This will make the system more efficient and save substantial financial resources; And will provide sufficient Funds for development.

6.    Army/Military to augment and supervise Law and Order enforcement .

 

and many more................................. but this will do to start with !

Ravi 

 

From: austin clement

Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 4:44 PM

To: Keralites@yahoogroups.com ; kr rajan

Subject: Re: Fwd: [www.keralites.net] Cant we Keralites survive without politically controlled government.

 

 

Certainly it is high time , a Govrnmt controlled by politicians is done away with. Politicians have been polluting the lives of common man by the unethical, and corrupt ways for their own selfish motives.Particularly in Kerala it is reaching  a point of no return.
So what are the options ?????
Some suggestions below:-

1.    Suspend all political parties and their activities.
2.    Dismiss  all ministers and their private staff.
3.     Suspend all Trade and Labor unions based on Political parties. Union leaders are to be elected on merits and they should be employees ( not outsiders) from the respective Organisations
4.    Governanence to be done by the beurocratic machinery, supervised by Judiciary.
5.    A board of Senior officers should be given powers to terminate services of  inefficient, corrupt and indisciplined staff of all Govmt organisations/Firms/police/Vigilence etc.  This will get rid of perhaps more than 50% of the current staff. This will make the system more efficient and save subtansial financial resources; And will provide sufficient Funds for devolopment.

6.    Army/Military to augment and supervise Law and Order enfocement . 

Any more suggestions?? Can we do the above?? Your comments please.

 

Warm regards,

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From: ICS MENON ics_menon@yahoo.com>
To: kr rajan krrajan2008@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, 15 July 2013 5:08 PM
Subject: Re: Fwd: [www.keralites.net] Cant we Keralites survive without politically controlled government.

 

 

politicians do all sorts of crimes and to survive the cases against them, the capture power and scrap the cases.  this is what is going on.  democracy to do non-senses by goons and rowdies.  they can kill anybody and come to power to avoid cases of crimes against them.  this will continue if the democracy of this type continues.

 

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From: kr rajan krrajan2008@gmail.com>
To: ics_menon@yahoo.com
Sent: Monday, 15 July 2013 9:01 PM
Subject: Fwd: [www.keralites.net] Cant we Keralites survive without politically controlled government.

 

we are in a democratic nation ,what u mean this ."why not we think about entrusting the govermental activities with the Executives and Judiciary voting out all political parties."manipulate all news from  media  for the sack of their own partiality (like paid news also).vote out all politicians and elect independent candidates-they are all of them go to their own way of existences like past non confidence motion in Loksabha. we do not help true politics and political parties.your arguments  also help only UPA for exploiting nation.Yes u actually  help political business in India.please u realise right policy and political parties if u can.  I hope Mr.

ICS MENON change your mind in clear way.

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From: kr rajan krrajan2008@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 9:00 PM
Subject: Re: [www.keralites.net] Cant we Keralites survive without politically controlled government.
To: Keralites@yahoogroups.com

we are in a democratic nation ,what u mean this ."why not we think about entrusting the govermental activities with the Executives and Judiciary voting out all political parties."manipulate all news from  media  for the sack of their own partiality (like paid news also).vote out all politicians and elect independent candidates-they are all of them go to their own way of existences like past non confidence motion in Loksabha. we do not help true politics and political parties.your arguments  also help only UPA for exploiting nation.Yes u actually  help political business in India.please u realise right policy and political parties if u can.  I hope Mr.

ICS MENON change your mind in clear way.

On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 1:48 PM, ICS MENON ics_menon@yahoo.com> wrote:

 

everyday there are lot of cries in the media and the next day it is corrected or changed by the originally started source.

this is just like reading novels. but novels will not change what happened in the story, these politicians change it after every second.

why not we think about entrusting the govermental activities with the Executives and Judiciary voting out all political parties.

if we find it difficult to run the state without politicians, we will call them back after five years.

vote out all politicians and elect independent candiates, close down the legislature and ministerial palaces for five years and the money spent on politicians can be used to beautify our tiny state with good roads etc...

start discussing this with like minded people, especially with youngsters

every where we can see/hear people crying about the politicians actions but no one come forward to remedy the situation

CAN WE THINK SOMETHING GOOD AND ACT UNITEDLY, BECAUSE MANY PEOPLE ARE BENEFITED WITH POLITICAL ACTIVITIES AS IT IS A BUSINESS IN INDIA

I LOOK FORWARD TO HEAR YOUR OPINION-JAI HIND

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