Friday 5 June 2020

Re: [www.keralites.net] Re: [hc] Re: [aryayouthgroup] covid 19 and ayurvedha

 

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On Friday, June 5, 2020, 08:17:54 PM PDT, Xavier William varekatx@gmail.com [Keralites] <keralites@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 

 I do not understand the analogy of the brick wall and the straw wall.
Some 70km away from my home is the Kodungalloor temple where devotees sing obscene songs to please the deity. These devotees assert that it works wonders. Similarly human and animal sacrifices were conducted to cure diseases. Thus infants were sacrificed in Carthage when plagues struck. Because they thought that infants would be preferred by the gods for their innocence. So should we encourage these practices for the straw wall effect that these religious practices may have?
There may be two kinds of cures. One is the scientific cure and the other is the placebo effect.
If we take a scale of 1-10 for scientific cure and another scale of 1-10 for placebo effect, then modern medicine may score 7-8 for scientific cure and 5-8 for placebo effect depending upon the trust the patient has in modern medicine.
In contrast, most alternate therapies may score 3-4 on the scientific scale and 5-8 on the placebo scale.
Human sacrifice, obscene songs and other religious practices score zero on the scientific scale and 5-8 on the placebo sale. Homeopathy also has zero scientific effect and a high placebo effect.
Now, article 51 A(h)of our Constitution says " [It shall be the duty of every citizen of India] To develop scientific temper, humanism and the spirit of inquiry and reform" Obviously our constitution commands that we adopt a scientific mentality in all matters which means that we should conduct more studies on Ayuveda instead of boasting about its age. It also means that we should throw out all superstitions and quack medicines such as homeopathy.
On Fri, 5 Jun 2020 at 14:51, sanjeev kulkarni jeevkulkarni@yahoo.com [aryayouthgroup] <aryayouthgroup@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

It is like saying 'erect a straw wall in front of your brick wall for
protection'.  If the straw wall does not protect, then we may 
use a brick wall but it does not mean the straw wall is useless..

SANJEEV


On Friday, 5 June, 2020, 11:56:36 am IST, vasant sardesai vasant_sardesai@yahoo.co.in [hinducivilization] <hinducivilization@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 

It is, of course, a prejudiced view.. No body has said that allopathic medicines are useless.In cerrtain cases we may have to resort to allopatic medicines for quick results  but that does not mean that other ways of treating are useless.

V. S. Sardesai

On Thursday, 4 June, 2020, 11:33:16 pm IST, sanjeev kulkarni jeevkulkarni@yahoo.com [hinducivilization] <hinducivilization@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 

Be honest to this till the last.  Treat your children and
family and yourself with Ayurveda only come what may.
Don't go the way Balkrishna of Patanjali went.  Never
get admitted to the hospital which gives allopathic treatment.
Insist only on Ayurvedic treatment.  Let us see how honest
and brave you are.

SANJEEV


On Thursday, 4 June, 2020, 09:05:09 pm IST, Sunil Bhattacharjya sunil_bhattacharjya@yahoo.com [hinducivilization] <hinducivilization@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 

This is real evidence. Just calling it anecdotal evidence is prejudiced view, just  like the Britishers thought that the Indians are foolish to believe in the mythical Ramayana and Mahabharata. periods. Allopathic is effective but does have limitations. 

On Thursday, 4 June 2020, 4:39:04 am GMT-7, sanjeev kulkarni jeevkulkarni@yahoo.com [hinducivilization] <hinducivilization@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 

This is called 'anecdotal evidence' which is rejected outright.

SANJEEV


On Thursday, 4 June, 2020, 01:27:25 am IST, Sunil Bhattacharjya sunil_bhattacharjya@yahoo.com [hinducivilization] <hinducivilization@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 

Yes, we should be unbiased. I knew a person who had Arthritis. He took Allopathic medicine and physiotherapy and had to take steroid injection. He started taking Arjunarishta privately, by taking two tablets a day. Two bottles were recommended and he, on his own, took three bottles of Arjunarishta. His problem was under control. However he fully recovered and became as fit as he was before, after he took a dose of homeopathic medicine.

Sunil KB
On Sunday, 31 May 2020, 11:49:42 pm GMT-7, sanjeev kulkarni jeevkulkarni@yahoo.com [hinducivilization] <hinducivilization@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 

Any medicine including Ayurveda should be rigorously tested
for its usefulness.  No medicine should be prescribed to show
veneration to Vedas etc.  Ayurveda is good as a health supplement
but once the disease catches up, Allopathy is the only authentic
option.  CEO of Patanjali -having the highest Ayurvedic medicines
sales in India- Mr Balakrishna had to undergo allopathic
treatment in the hospital when he suffered from a heart attack.
And his Company was promoting Ayurvedic medicines for the 
same.  It speaks volumes for the unbiased. There is nothing
Eastern or Western as far as medicine is concerned.  It has to
be evaluated for its efficacy.

SANJEEV


On Monday, 1 June, 2020, 12:06:39 pm IST, Mohan Natarajan mohannatarajan2001@yahoo.co.in [aryayouthgroup] <aryayouthgroup@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 

DEAR ALL

AN EXCELLENT POSTING FROM ANOTHER GROUP REGARDING

AYURVEDA FOR COVID 19 CRISIS

N MOHAN


  • An appeal for Ayurveda amid COVID-19 crisis


    Sheela Rani Chunkath





    31 May 2020

    [This discipline is the world's oldest scientific medical system based on a robust philosophy of Sankhya and Nyaya darshana]

    The debate rages on. The Indian Council of Medical Research (ICMR), which believes in Western medicine, has been given the authority to decide on how and what Ayurvedic medicines should be given to Covid-19 positive patients.

    A government that bans cow-slaughter because cows are venerated in the Vedas, should on the other hand encourage Ayurveda because it has roots in the Vedas.

    This discipline is the world's oldest scientific medical system based on a robust philosophy of Sankhya and Nyaya darshana..

    As Dr Ninivaggi has brilliantly put, "the world view of Ayurveda is essentially unitary and dynamic... There is no part of the totality of existence that is functionally separate or disconnected from any other." 

    There is constant interaction among the three doshas: vata, pitta and kapha. These are regulatory principles of the body's psychophysiological functioning.

    Any experienced Ayurvedic vaidya would first attempt to ascertain the cause (nidana) of the disease, the premonitory symptoms (purvarupas), the symptoms (lakshanas) and attempt to treat the patient based on their desha (place), kala (season) and prakriti (nature).

    Why would one expect ICMR to know about how an Ayurvedic vaidya goes about treating a patient.. 

    There are Ayurvedic pharmaceutical companies, which have turnovers in crores, and presumably, people are buying Ayurvedic medications because it is effective.

    This despite repeated attempts to plant stories in the mainstream media about how the kidneys/liver of Mr X failed because of Ayurvedic medications. 

    I haven't seen a single report in the media of a qualified Ayurvedic vaidya prescribing medicines to a patient, who while consuming it as per the prescription, comes to great harm.. 

    I have also seen reports in the press that Ayurvedic medicines contain metal. But did we not make it clear that some formulations contain metal?

    Ayurvedic metals are treated/purified and made into bhasmas or preparations that are assimilable by the body.. 

    I find that in the treatment of Covid-19, zinc has been prescribed. Is that not a metal? Why is there no hue and cry about it being administered to Covid-19 patients without randomised control trials?

    How is it that when the western medical establishment does such things people turn a blind eye? The only reasonable explanation is that we are still slaves to the Western white skin ethos.

    All our yogas and formulations are in the public domain and nobody gets to profit if we show by treatment that Sudarshan Churana or Vyagradi Kashayam is effective in treating Covid-19 patients. 

    A vaccine, on the contrary, can make billions for the pharma companies which would have us believe that without it, we would all die. In India, at least so far, the mortality is something that should not cause panic.

    The government of India's controls on travel, both national and international, have perhaps led to lesser spread. Maybe Indians have better immunity.

    Their diet, however poor, contains immune-enhancing spices. Maybe the climate is unfavourable for the spread of Covid-19. Maybe we have a less virulent strain... We need to discuss these factors and advocate medicines from our ancient systems.

    Charaka, as far back as 2,000 or more years ago, postulated yogas or combinations of drugs which could be used for treating the vitiation of each dosha.

    Nagarjuna, a famous Buddhist physician, enumerated the various herbs and mineral drugs which could be used to treat fevers, respiratory infections and the likes. Nagarjuna also put down the various shodanaor purification procedures that needed to be done before metals are to be used. 

    I would not attempt to perform complicated heart surgery because I learnt to do an anorectal procedure in BAMS.

    Similarly, a cardiologist should not presume to know what works and what doesn't in Ayurveda. And what needs to be proven for new molecules discovered yesterday, need not be proven for Ayurvedic drugs that have been in use for centuries.

    That is its strength but what's being done is that Ayurvedic vaidyas are being dragged down to the level of Western physicians who have a pharmacist's approach to the treatment of disease.

    If it is disease A, give medicine X. It is this treatment methodology which needs medical trials, not Ayurveda.




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On Friday, June 5, 2020, 08:42:43 PM PDT, Xavier William varekatx@gmail.com [Keralites] <keralites@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 

Deva,
First learn about your own religion before you accuse other religions.
You write " Firstly Can you please tell me if Mohammed prescribe sex with prepuberty girls and that it is not PEADEOPHILE to do so"
What about Brahma. He raped his own daughter Saraswathi. Then there was Shiva having homosexual relationship with Vishnu.
So first clean up your religion before you point fingers at others


On Fri, 5 Jun 2020 at 22:08, Deva Sarran Samaroo devasamaroo@hotmail.com [TheBecoming] <TheBecoming@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 


PFI ISLAMIC NGO FUND RAISING TO DESTROY INDIA HINDUISM AND DEMOCRACY

From: Latheef Farook almfarook19@gmail.com 
 

It is time you consult a psychiatrist. you call youself a hindu. disgrace

On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 5:46 PM Deva S .Samaroo
 To Latheef Farook almfarook19@gmail.com 

Thanks you for your diagnosis that I need psychiatric treatment. 

Firstly Can you please tell me if Mohammed prescribe sex with prepuberty girls and that it is not PEADEOPHILE to do so.

 Secondly Our Meena Kumari the great Indian actress had to have NIKAHALALA before her husband would take her back.. 

She asked can any Muslims tell me what is the difference between NIKAHALALA and PROSTITUTION

If you Lateef Farook can answer the above I will tell you about the other 2200 SURAS OF THE QURAN THAT NEED TO BE EXAMINED.  

THEN YOU CAN TELL ME IF THE AUTHOR OF THOSE 2200 SURAS NEEDS PSYCHIATRIC TREATMENT 

BY: HINDUPOST DESK JUNE 4, 2020

Islamist organisation Popular Front of India (PFI) came under the scanner for its role in the Delhi riots and investigation in this case exposed the involvement of 'Rehab India', an associate organisation of  PFI, which was used by the latter to mobilise funds to fuel anti-CAA (Citizenship Amendment Act) protests in the country. According to the ED (Enforcement Directorate) PFI opened 27 bank accounts in its name out of which held by Rehab India and a total of 120 crores were received by PFI.

So what exactly is Rehab India Foundation (RIF)? Their website states that the foundation was set up on 17th March 2008 with the intention of 'rehabilitating the marginalised section of rural India'. As per the information provided in their website they started out by adopting 51 families in a riot hit village of Assam and followed this 'success' by adopting 60 more villages in Bihar, West Bengal, Assam, Karnataka, Tamil Nadu, Manipur, Uttar Pradesh and Andhra Pradesh. These so called village development programmes run for five years and are supplemented by various 'important short term programmes'. However, there is no information provided about what these important short term programmes are.

Our sources have brought to our attention that Rehab India is not being transparent in putting out all the information which indicates that something fishy is going on behind the scenes. None of the important information is accessible and most sections either display a 'virus alert' or 'page not found'. In addition, there is no information regarding the law under which the foundation has been established.

In other words, whether it is a trust, society or any other form of organisation and also who is funding it, its account details as also when it received FCRA (Foreign Contribution Regulation Act) certificate. The foundation website also does not give out the names of the areas in which it has carried out its rehab activities. Corporates, GoI (Government of India) and NGOs Empower India Foundation, Ideal and Identical Minority Advancement Nexus (IIMAN), Heal India and India Fights Covid with Rehab have been listed as its partners.

Although RIF's bank details have been provided on the website along with the message that donations are exempt under section 80G of the Income Tax Act, the organisation does not figure in the list of associations granted FCRA permission for Delhi, 2010 (assuming that RIF's FCRA registration was done by 2010) as per information provided by FCRA website. With so many details shrouded in secrecy and the ED specifically stating that Rehab India was used by PFI to receive funds from abroad that was later put to use to create communal disturbance in the name of anti-CAA protests.

Remiz Muhammad has been listed as the founder of Rehab India and surprisingly he is not a trustee. Among those associated with RIF is Congress member and close Gandhi family aide Sam Pitroda. Another Trustee is Advocate Bhavani B Mohan belonging to Tamil Nadu is a known Modi hater who was seen lecturing in an event organised by PFI's political wing SDPI, and also a Maoist sympathiser who appeared as a defence lawyer for Maoist Deepak.

With much of the important information being withheld, coupled with ED's revelation that the foundation was used by PFI to route foreign funds into the country in an attempt to destabilise it, we wonder how many more and what kind of skeletons are hidden in the RIF cupboard.

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