Wednesday 9 September 2020

[www.keralites.net] Re: [aryayouthgroup] Caste in hair cutting

 

Sanjeev,
It is not the Brahmins alone who resort to caste. It is a relative thing.
The Sudras are the least of the Vedic caste system. But they discriminate with the Dalits and other non-Vedic Hindus.
I have myself experience this untouchability by Nairs who are Sudras. We used to buy milk in my childhood from a Nair woman. She would not give the milk directly to me. Instead she would leave it on the floor. Then she would stick out her hand palm up and we had to drop the money into the palm without touching her palm. We Christians would not allow Pulayayas the lowest in the caste system to come in front of the house. Instead they had to stay behind the house. They would not be served food in the plates we sued. Instead a small hole would be dug in the ground and a banana leaf would be spread over the hole and that is where they were served their food.
And once on my trip to the forest I met some Adivasis whom we look down upon and I was surprised to learn that they too practiced caste hierarchy and untouchability among themselves.
You have narrated the case of the monkeys to justify the system of castes in haircutting. Every custom we practice is the outcome of such conditioning. You use this example to justify the malpractices in your own community. Why dont you use the same story to justify the customs in others also? Instead you slander others for their customs while justifying your customs with the story.
In the past might was right and everyone resorted to powerplay. Humanism and democracy had no coinage with our ancestors. Accept that instead of trying to justify your malpractices by blaming it on invaders. All societies everywhere had their quota of discriminatory practices in most agricultural societies of the past and Hindu societies were no different..

On Wed, 9 Sep 2020 at 22:10, sanjeev kulkarni jeevkulkarni@yahoo.com [aryayouthgroup] <aryayouthgroup@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

I am sure the hair-cutters are not upper-caste Brahmins! Nor you will find any quotation from scriptures to support this incident. So from where this Did this behaviour originate?  There is an interesting experiment in this regard called "the five monkey experiment".

 

An experimenter puts 5 monkeys in a large cage. High up at the top of the cage, well beyond the reach of the monkeys, is a bunch of bananas. Underneath the bananas is a ladder.

 

The monkeys immediately spot the bananas and one begins to climb the ladder. As he does, however, the experimenter sprays him with a stream of cold water. Then, he proceeds to spray each of the other monkeys.

 

The monkey on the ladder scrambles off. And all 5 sit for a time on the floor, wet, cold, and bewildered. Soon, though, the temptation of the bananas is too great, and another monkey begins to climb the ladder. Again, the experimenter sprays the ambitious monkey with cold water and all the other monkeys as well. When a third monkey tries to climb the ladder, the other monkeys, wanting to avoid the cold spray, pull him off the ladder and beat him.

 

Now one monkey is removed and a new monkey is introduced to the cage. Spotting the bananas, he naively begins to climb the ladder. The other monkeys pull him off and beat him.

 

Here's where it gets interesting. The experimenter removes a second one of the original monkeys from the cage and replaces him with a new monkey. Again, the new monkey begins to climb the ladder and, again, the other monkeys pull him off and beat him -including the monkey who had never been sprayed.

 

By the end of the experiment, none of the original monkeys was left and yet, despite none of them ever experiencing the cold, wet, spray, they had all learned never to try and go for the bananas.

You will find social customs which have no traditional or scriptural basis are shaped by clever manipulation. May be by way of rewards to a handful of musclemen initially and soon the society starts falling in line. The tool often was 'ex-communication' by caste-panchayat.  Even today you will find jaat-panchayats in rural areas which impose fines and punishments for those who break the tradition.

 

 

SANJEEV 


On Wednesday, 9 September, 2020, 05:37:06 pm IST, Xavier William varekatx@gmail.com [aryayouthgroup] <aryayouthgroup@yahoogroups.com> wrote:





 




Vattavada is a panchayat in Kerala on our boarder with Tamilnadu and populated predominantly by Tamilians. The haricutters there have been refusing to render their services to the low-castes in the village. Now someone has complained and Panchayat has closed down all the hair-cutterss who refuse to render their services to the low castes. The haircutters refuse to oblige even if they have to close down-- 
This is the latest news in Kerala. Are the English to blame for this state of affairs? If so why dont some Sanghis from Kerala or TN go there and educate teh haircutters on the difference between Varna and Jathi and persuade them to cut everyone's hair irrespective of caste. And while you are at it watch this video Madame Patti
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwArJ-DUpVg&t=2s



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