Thursday 13 June 2013

Re: [www.keralites.net] Make democracy more beneficial to the country

 

Yes Mr. Bala, none of us as aam aadmi or common man had a choice in making any of those people as Prime ministers. The system demanded it and they became PMs. The history says when a second time came Mr. VP Singh ran away from home remained underground for two days be cause he was afraid of the system making him the PM for the second time. We the Indians are a blessed lot because as you pointed out, 2413 years back our Great Patriot cum Administrator cum King Maker cum Prime Minister, Mr Chanakya through his ARTHA SASTHRA GIVEN all sides of the science of Governance, but none of our leaders including our Great leaders like Mahatma Gandhi & Jawaharla Nehru bothered to  acknowledge it it . On the contrary they have completely ignored his fore warnings. This is our FATE.

Gangadharan Nair


On 13 June 2013 07:47, Bala p.l <plbala52@yahoo.com> wrote:
 

S. GN Sir, I am with you centum. But out of all the people you mentioned Iam really shocked when i think about  Sri: Manmohan singh. What a gentleman he was all along his carrier/ a true patriot/ One who pulled this country out from an economic disaster in early 1990s. Look at this tower's fall. Iam reminded of Artha sasthra. Power corrupt absolute. Chanakya said almost 2413 years ago  (We went to doll drums becos of VPS/Deva Gowda and chandra sehkar and one more Jhony whose name I forgot. They had neither the vision nor the expertise to run the country. The only agenda was to become PM) . 
Bala    
A change is very much necessary.

From: Gangadharan Nair N <ng.puthoor@gmail.com>
To: Keralites <Keralites@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, 12 June 2013 7:34 AM

Subject: Re: [www.keralites.net] Make democracy more beneficial to the country
 
You are absolutely RIGHT Mr. Bala. But our DEMOCRATIC SYSYEM does NOT permit any good people to run the show. What happened to Jawaharlal Nehru, VP Singh, Rajiv Gandhi & now Manmohan Singh? Can you say they were corrupted before they become the Prime Ministers. They were all Clean and fresh as a VIRGIN. But what happened later after becoming the PM is history. This shows there is a great structural flaw in our democratic system. Unless and until we correct that system nothing is going to work. We got to define the responsibility of each elected members and fix it on them. Make the number of elected members to minimum so that they can function very well without any opposition. Make our vigilance dept more meaningful and functioning without any fear or favour.

Gangadharan Nair.
On 9 June 2013 10:18, GEORGE THOMAS <georg_thomas@sify.com> wrote:
 
Whatever one may say indicting the Congress Party of scams and corruption, it seems that there is no alternative in the political arena in the present circumstances.  The main opposition party BJP is proved communal which may be bent upon converting India a Hindu country, with one of its main objective in coming to power to build a grand Ram Mandir when the country is embroiled in ever so many problems today.  While it is still a developing country with a majority of its citizens under poverty line, its infrastructure still in tatters, medical and health facilities for the poor still inadequate, myriad social and economic problems aplenty remain unsolved, etc., etc., it is really ironical that the party keeps the issue of Ram Mandir construction alive and considers it a prime issue to be resolved ahead of many important problems facing the country, as if once the Temple is considered it would tantamount relinquishing the major problems facing the country !  BJP has been always in the forefront in espousing the religious emotions of the majority community, thus paving the way for a communal imbalance and hatred between communities, with the sole aim of catching votes and thereby managing to come to power by unscrupulous means !  

We pride ourselves being a caste less society and an impartial government, but which action or function of the government of the day is free from religious hypocrisy and fanaticism ?  We start all government functions or actions with Poojas and religious formalities as prescribed or advised by Purohts and Pandits, at auspicious times prescribed and dictated by the religious heads, all the while priding ourselves with being a non-communal democratic entity.  I am of the view that governments should be free from entanglement of religious activism and indulgence of business or trading with a view to make profits.

I am not trying to eulogize the Congress party which is deeply retrenched in corruption and maladministration, but certainly under the given circumstances, Congress is a better option for the country with all other leading national parties equally mired in all sorts of malpractices and inaction. 

GEORGE THOMAS
On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 10:02 AM, Kaikara Shajihan <kaikarashajihan@gmail.com> wrote:
 
Dear Mr.Bala & Agarwal

Your comment against INC is not acceptable. As you said Mr. Menon may be an INC member but sure I am not INC follower. Me an leftist which is totally against corruption, scam and anti people political parties. Comparing other parties including BJP  the one and only national party which is having MP andMLA in all states are INC. That means its roots spread all over India.
Corruption is everywhere and in that case BJP as well the regional
parties  are corrupted same like INC. Its the duty of the judiciary to
catch them. But we all appreciate INC's secularism which make harmony
in our country and that"s why even the majority hindus are not supporting
the hindutavadi BJP which spoiled the harmony of our beloved nation with
their anti minority gimmick just to grab the power. As the nation knows
this and that's why even in our state when loksabha election comes
people vote for secular congress party but when assembly election 
people vote for leftist front. So we need  a strong INC at center as well
left front or united front at state. so once again I can say that we Indians
vote again for a congress government at centre which can bring harmony
among us.

kaikara

On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 12:39 PM, Pramod Agrawal <pka_ur@yahoo.com> wrote:
 
Mr. Bala. p.l,   Very well said sir!,
 
Indian National Congress (I) is a party of scam, fraud, corruption & anti public, I fail to understand why Mr. Menon is advocating a party which has ruin the country and create so many National & International problem before the country. It is the worst & shameless party of India.  Mr. menon seems to be the member of INC(I)
 
Ln. P.K. Agrawal
 
--- On Thu, 6/6/13, Bala p.l <plbala52@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Bala p.l <plbala52@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [http://www.keralites.net/] Make democracy more beneficial to the country
To: "Keralites@yahoogroups.com" <Keralites@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Thursday, June 6, 2013, 9:37 AM
 
Mr. ICS menon,
there was a msg almost identical to yours projecting the Indian National Congress and branding BJP as communal.and calling to give a  clear majority to the so called Indian national Congress which according to you is the national party some time back from this keralaites group . You have further said that those who oppose congress in the election on winning support the congress. Is it not a defection. No it is breach of contract and faith the people reposed on our leaders, How about parties electing their leaders to Rajya saba who have lost in the Loka saba elections. Dont you think sir this is worst than defection. 
I have the following for you to ponder please.
a) The Indian national congress that stood for patriotism and full of statesmen was stabbed to death by Indira gandhi in 1969 at Bangalore AICC meet and formed Indian National Congress( I) I representing her name. she ruined the country to her best and after a short stint by Rajive Gandhi, the present INC has become Indian National Congress Itally pvt ltd. and still people like you say it is INDIAN NATIONAL CONGRESS
 
2) Regarding the growth of regional parties again the congress is the one which supported the birth and growth of these to keep their hold in the centre and leaving the sates to get ruined under this power and money centred regional parties and its leaders.
 
3) Sir , please tell me is there any state in India where you can see a united congress leadership and followers. Each state unit has more leaders and factions than the members. Please take the example of our Kerala State. How many fcations. The drama that is unfolding for the last 10 days on Chandi/Chennithala episode make one to vomit.
4) You call INC as a national party. How many states are they ruling sir and just count how many regional parties they have at center  on whose support they run this ineptive Govt.
So Please let us advocate for a clean Govt by choosing clean people which ever party they belong to.
Rgds
Bala Chennai
 
     
 
From: Gangadharan Nair N <ng.puthoor@gmail.com>
To: Keralites <Keralites@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, 6 June 2013 6:50 AM
Subject: Re: [http://www.keralites.net/] Make democracy more beneficial to the country
 
Mr. Menon, Your ideas are very GOOD but the present system of Government should go and a new presidential form of government should come. Then what you said is imperative. The Indian Democracy will not function properly because of its own structural flaw and NOT the political parties. A 5 tier Democracy with over 30 lakh elected members, where in each tier is opposing the other will not take a nation to any where except destruction.  For your information today each member of Parliament represents an average 22.2 Lakh people. In the world there are 104 countries which do not have a population of even  20 Lakh and most of them advanced very well in the past 20 years. So it is better to hand over each Parliament constituency to its own member of Parliament and let him rule the constituency with the help of the Collector. ( More or less like old Naattu Rajaas) The member will be so serious and he will do everything for his constituency and the nation will progress. What the nation needs is a strong Vigilance Dept. to check the corruption. Let Central Ministry is formed from Rajya Sabha Members like our Manmohan Singh.
Gangadharan Nair.
On 4 June 2013 18:59, ICS MENON <ics_menon@yahoo.com> wrote:
 







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