Friday 3 July 2020

[www.keralites.net] Re: [TheBecoming] Re: [FHRS_USA] WHY INDIA BJP NDA NOT DECLARING INDIA AS A HINDU RASTRIYA

 

Anand Sharma,
"The total results I have to show for my efforts is big Zero, yawns and ridicule."
Well that what you deserve for your lies. Who the hell do you think you are to  allow hundreds of millions of them (Muslims) to live with us and allow to expand through unfair practices."
What about your practices caste discrimination, sati and others which were worse than what the Muslims did?
You are speaking about polygamy in Islam which killed millions of Dalits and widows?. How about Polyandry in UP and Nepal where one woman marries many men? Why dont you put that right before you go putting right Muslim practices of polyandry?
You are speaking all the time about the Muslim attrocities and fabricating lies to prove your point. 
Here is something frrom https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maratha_Empire according to which "During their occupation of western Bengal, the Marathas perpetrated atrocities against the local population.[42] The Maratha atrocities were recorded by both Bengali and European sources, which reported that the Marathas demanded payments, and tortured and killed anyone who couldn't pay. Dutch sources estimate a total of 400,000 people in Bengal were killed by the Marathas. According to Bengali sources, the atrocities led to much of the local population opposing the Marathas and developing support for the Nawabs." 
In contrast the Portugese killed just 56 people over a period or 12 years during the Goan inquisition. But you ignore the 400000 Hindus killed by the Marathas and highlight the 56 killed by the Portuguesse. You deserve a Nobel prize for your sense of justice.
What do you have to say about it.
The Sikhs conquered Kashmir and the taxes they levied were so heavy that thousands fled Kashmir.
What do you have to say about it?
There are so many attrocities committed by Hindus against Hindus and you turn a blind eye to all that and focus only on what Muslims did to you and fabricate lies to prove your lies.
Shame on you.
LIAR LIAR BLOODY LIAR


On Fri, 3 Jul 2020 at 18:19, vasant sardesai vasant_sardesai@yahoo.co.in [TheBecoming] <TheBecoming@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

Who says?

V. S. Sardesai

On Friday, 3 July, 2020, 2:53:00 pm IST, Aps Chauhan <apsc1937@icloud.com> wrote:


There was no Hindu nation or state . Why should this be declared such. Cite one example from history . You don't a civil war here do you ? If Netaji Subhash never  thought of this he was so right. 
Chauhan 

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On 02-Jul-2020, at 5:59 PM, 'vasant sardesai' via Patriots Forum <patriotsspeak@googlegroups.com> wrote:

It is the treachery of J, Nehru in allowing Muslims toay in independent India calling it secular when Pakistan was separated from India for Muslims.

V. S. Sardesai

On Thursday, 2 July, 2020, 8:13:34 am IST, Anand Sharma <aksharma1857@hotmail.com> wrote:


Suresh Ji,

Very eye-opening article, even though all of us feel a chill recounting all the horrors from Muslims over the centuries and counting. 

We have the toughest balancing act in human history. Muslims took away one third of our thousands of years old country with very horrific violence. Despite this, we have been very nice to them, allowing hundreds of millions of them to live with us and allow to expand through unfair practices.

Frankly, we are a lifeless dud. The only reason we got our independence after 800 years was because the second world war made Britain and France so weak that they could no longer hold on to their colonies. We copied British laws, constitution etc. line by line and the independent country of India was born.

The reason I am so bitter is that I have spent all my life, lot of time, energy and money, preaching that a simple, fair step should be taken like ban Polygamy to prevent unfair expansion of Muslims in India. I have been a member of the Overseas Friends of BJP USA since early 90's and its coordinator for my city. I am probably the only one, flying at my own expense all over US to its annual meetings and deliver keynote addresses on the subject. I met with Lal Krishna Advani Ji personally in 90's who promised us that they will ban polygamy as soon as they come to power.

The total results I have to show for my efforts is big Zero, yawns and ridicule.

My thought is that we have to be extremely alert and ban all their unfair practices, ban polygamy, control their politically motivated large families.

Declaring Hindu Rastriya is impractical and will cause many more problems than it will solve. 

Thanks and regards,
Anand Sharma 

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Subject: Re: [FHRS_USA] WHY INDIA BJP NDA NOT DECLARING INDIA AS A HINDU RASTRIYA
 
Below is a related short article about constitution (supreme or not):

jaya sri krishna!

sv

On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 1:37 AM Deva Sarran Samaroo <devasamaroo@hotmail.com> wrote:
Dear Prem Sablok

I disagree with your thoughts which is limited without determination. Al countries have constitution and that is a written concept. That concept can be changed as Russia is doing presently 

If other countries can change and amends their constitution why INDIA CANNOT?   

Do not confused between HINDU PRACTICES AND INDIA BECOMING A HINDU RASTRIYA BY CONSTITUTION 

Deva
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Subject: Re: [FHRS_USA] WHY INDIA BJP NDA NOT DECLARING INDIA AS A HINDU RASTRIYA
 
 

Governance of any country is based on the Constitution of that  country. BJP/NDA can not deviate from the Constitution of India. Amendment of the Constitution is not that easy. Even BJP manifesto no where says about Hindu Rashtra in Indai. Strengthening Hindu Dharma is a social subject and not a poltical subject in India. Before any social thought of Hindu Rashtra, we need to strengthen Hindu Dharma by reviving Vedas truthfully. In the absence of Vedas Hindus are getting divided into sub religions, sects, cults, gurudom and formimg close societies. I find there are many Hindus who are not keen to revive Vedas.then how do we form Hindu Rashra?
There should be something common for Hindu Rashra even as a social thought.
Our Constitution does not prohibit strngthening of any religion/Dharma but there is no move any where to strengthen Hindu Dharma and merge Hindu close societies in to one Hindu Dharma Open Society. Our Constituion does not prohibit merging of Hindu close societies into one Hindu Open Society. I do not know any Social Hindu Dharma group is pursuing this matter.. We need not bouther BJP/NDA being political parties on this subject. For them governance is for Citizens of India and not for any religion of India.
 
Regards
Prem Sabhlok




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Subject: Re: [FHRS_USA] WHY INDIA BJP NDA NOT DECLARING INDIA AS A HINDU RASTRIYA [1 Attachment]

 

 

The first thing is you have to publish your manifesto - What 
is your idea of a Hindu rashtra, what is the social contract
offered to all its constituents, who falls out of the definition
of Hindu etc.  People are afraid that if they opt for a Hindu 
rashtra, untouchables will get a raw deal.  So first you have
to clear all your positions including your political philosophy,
economic ideology, aims where you want to take the society etc.
 
SANJEEV
 
 
On Tuesday, 30 June, 2020, 10:49:04 pm IST, Deva Sarran Samaroo devasamaroo@hotmail.com [FHRS_USA] <fhrs_usa@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 
 
 

 


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DEAR HINDUS AND BJP NDA GOVERNMENT PLEASE READ BELOW WHAT ARE EE AFRAID OF DECLARING INDIA AS A HINDU RASTRIYA THE TIME IS NOW IF OTHERS CAN DO IT WHY CAN'T WE.
 
 

 




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