Tuesday, 10 September 2013

Re: [www.keralites.net] India is not strong

 

Well a debate with responsible and reasonable harshness is appreciable. I welcome your perceptions with a few autopsy on your statements and quotes.
Gajini Mohammed or Tymoor, Chengiskhan ,Great Alexanders are war lords and they were told that lot of gold and silver are flowing in India and they came to loot.  To them temple or palace was not an issue. LOOT.  But Gajini came to Madura Ujjain seems to be your historical invention.   Had he visited Trivanandapuram once,   he would not have come several times for plundering.
Idol worship is an inter Islamic issue during Mohammed time.  He professed existence of omnipotent which is shapeless, colorless and and an invisible power.  He was driven to Medina by the idol worshipers of the land.  Do you get confused with Arab events and Hinduism.  Hindu philosophy do have thesis of god without any shape-the Paramathma theory has got its own depth.

Holding  revenge against one religious group against other, itself is primitive animalic sentiment of LAMB AND THE WOLF TALE.
At last Bangalore was once city of Alcoholics.  Yes, people from neighbouring states used to come to Bangalore and converted
it as a city of liquor. Now, the liquor sale is doubled and drinkers are our soft wares.
Chandra 1510-? is it the year of birth ?
Hindu`s are suffering to breath among the Muslims who are enjoying concessions.    
First thing , you shall observe with more sense of reasoning.  The conditions of muslim
in India, comparing to their counter part upper castes are very much low. Indian Muslims
are some how position themselves to survive. The job opportunities, the education,health
living environments are all much condemnable.  Leave all the contaminated Bhraminical ideas
and muslim fundamentalists and fanatics,  work with average humans, then you will find that
there is some major injustice and inhumanism exist.  Even this is there with SC and STs
WE can not be proud to call this nation a great with all devils dance.

krish



On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 8:45 AM, Chandra Segaran Nair Krishnan Nair <chandra1510@gmail.com> wrote:
 

Yes I am in total agreement with John Thomas point of view, fact is fact. 

If only we can get rid of these religious divide and THE CORRUPT POLITICIANS  in India we can turn out to be a great nation.

NO COUNTRY CAN CAUSE DAMAGE TO OUR BELOVED COUNTRY INDIA IF WE ARE UNITED RAISING ABOVE OUR RELIGIOUS DIVIDE.
I MEAN FEAR NOT AMERICA BUT EMBRACE AS A FRIENDLY NATION.WE HAVE NOTHING TO LOOSE.
RECOGNIZE AMERICA IS A COUNTRY THAT CARES FOR THE WELL BEINGS OF OTHER COUNTIES BUT MOST OFTEN TAKEN AS ENEMY DUE TO OUR SUSPICION AND MISTRUST IN THEIR MOTIVES.AMERICA HAS ONLY COME TO THE AIDS OF ALL COUNTRIES WHEN THEY FACED TREATS FROM THEIR NEIGHBORING COUNTRIES.LET US NOT FORGET IT IS A GREAT NATION.

Now coming to our pressing problem prevailing most often I see the HINDUS are taken for granted and are humiliated,deprived of their rightful place in the name of SECULARISM,that's unfortunate it is a wound inflicted on Hindus heal it and all will be well..

REMEMBER THE NATIVES OF INDIA WERE PREDOMINANTLY HINDUS BUT TODAY THEY ARE BEING SIDELINED AND MADE TO LOOK INSIGNIFICANT IN THE AFFAIRS OF THE GOVERNMENT AND AS A SOCIETY BECAUSE OF THE SPECIAL PRIVILEGES ACCORDED TO THE NON HINDUS.  

Hindus have been accommodating and have played host to many foreigners who came to it's shore but have been betrayed and subjugated and destroyed the harmony that existed among the people with the introduction of other religions most often by force and divided the people making them mortal enemies.

Recognize it and do what is needed to alter these state of affairs.

That is my humble view.             


On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 3:34 PM, John Thomas <joal0791@yahoo.com> wrote:
 

Only people in fools paradise can think like this. A person who lives in Bangalore keeps such a view point is quite surprising as that city is the biggest reaper of IT boom which was/is based on the US market. Million of young people from downtrodden families became elite population of this nation only because of this. Otherwise Bangalore would have remained the alcohol capital of India. Along as the nation is benefiting, any international alliance is okay which should be politically and economically viable.

Once the USSR was collapsed, the significance of non-alignment movement had evaporated. All the member countries declared either as anti-American or pro-American. This is where India had to take a call. What is the point of proclaiming leniency to China who became the center of anti-American lobby while they claim our land as their territory? Pro-American doesn't mean American colony, but a country that has a good business and political relationships with America. Most of the Western European countries to Sunni Muslim majority Arab countries are pro-American. Iraq war or Afghan war is not India's priority, but to improve the situation within the country.

Thirdly, I am against all sorts of fanaticism. But I would like to comment a little bit on the BJP/RSS and Hindu/Muslim harmony in India. It is not a story started after independence of India. First of all, in North India, the Hindu sentiments of this country was anti-Muslim from 10th century as Mahmud of Ghazani attacked Somnath, Mathura, Dwaraka, Kannauj, etc. and burned all the temples down. At Somnath alone Sivalinga was destroyed into pieces and looted all the wealth and fifty thousand people were killed who tried to protect the temple. Even though it was an act of looting, the Persian poets wrote poems on this as the greatest act of Jihad against idle worshipers. This is still taught in the schools of Pakistan, Afghanistan and Middle East with great pride. The plight of Prithviraj Chawhan also hurt them severely. So most of the Brahmin and Shakriya class hated Muslims since then. But the modern education changed people greatly and main stream freedom fighters of India were highly secular. They didn't buy the philosophy of primitive revenge. This was the space where the RSS could grow its roots and became a strong movement in this country; even though I dislike their thoughts and deeds.

Agree or disagree, it is up to you.


From: Krishnamurthy V <krishnam2007@gmail.com>
To: Keralites@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2013 8:37 PM
Subject: [www.keralites.net] India is not strong



Some one commented that all the countries surrounding us are causing damage to our country.  Sri Lankans, even Maldives are acting as Al Quida training centre.  Issue is what is our political vision and national foreign policy.  After
partition we brought a peaceful life and relationship between Hindu and Muslims.  That too the Muslims who were
with all humiliation determined to adopt India as their mother land.  Then came RSS and Jan Sangh and created
wind of hatred and insinuation of Muslim.  All the trading and business community funded this political wings with
a sole intention of eliminating their emerging market competitors in various trades, especially in Textiles.  The whole
aim of BJP and its original poisonous plant was to create mutual hatredness and division among the communities,
 It is hard to digest these fundamentals of national disintegration and rise of terrorism on both sides.

we come to enemy in the frontiers,  Our policy of Non alignment once worked as a formidable policy forcing nations
to keep us away from their international relations or enmity,  Islamic countries have royal relationship with USA and
widespread inner hatredness at grass root level.  Who gave mandate to Vajpayee and Manmohan singh to back
USA in all their atrocities .  Where their brains have pledged or sold during Iraq and Afgan wars.  We stood beside
their national enemy and we received some of the stones thrown at USA and their gang,

we committed wounds or we stood with rogues and we pay penalty out of hatredness of the neighbours.
To day , if you have to confront China, you will have to fall into the trap of USA.  That is why intentionally
a campaign is going in the USA installed  Indian visual media about the Chinese occupation or agression
and thus we will end in war for a wrong reason.  Both our economy and Chinese economy will be partly
destroyed and we will once again become a dependenent slave nations China will loose its economic 
growth
THOSE WHO FAILED TO REMEMBER THE PAST WILL BE COMPELLED TO REPEAT THEIR POLITICAL 
FALLS/    BETTER WE ACT WITH MORE SENSE OF REASONS AND KNOWLEDGE THAN WITH
IMAGERY HEROISM

KRISHNA
BANGALORE









--
Chandra1510


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