Tuesday 16 June 2020

[www.keralites.net] Re: [TheBecoming] Re: Are religions equal

 

When you ask such questions as whether religions are equal there must be some quality or attribute which makes them equal or unequal. So what are the attributes you imply when you ask the question  as to whether religions are equal or unequal. You also state that sanathan dharma is eternal without bothering to define what this Sanathan Dharma is. You are making a fool of yourselves when you use such pompous words without defining them. Just because you have a computer it does not mean you can post any bullshit.

On Tue, 16 Jun 2020 at 11:02, DevinderSingh Gulati devindersingh.gulati2@gmail.com [TheBecoming] <TheBecoming@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

@Jasmeet. Nanak taught Dharam. Sikhs have made it into a religion. By religion is meant they made it exclusive. Dharam is inclusive. Dharam is sanatan eternal.

According to dharam all human beings are equal. Religions have different views. Some religions claim God favours their particular religion..
Sikhi does not make such a claim, but our discussion is; are religions equal.
Sikhi states religions are not equal. Only the path enunciated by Nanak is true.
The path of the Muslims and the path of the Hindus is false, it says.
This is the interpretation of both Hardev Singh and Rawel Singh whom I mentioned in my original post.
They may not be noted Sikhi scholars, but they both are active on social media.

Religions are different, that is agreed. But what is the core behind religions we are examining.
Is the core of the Sikh religion Hindu or is it Muslim, is what I asked Rawel Singh.
Now Sikhi says, there is one sole reality. And that one has become the many.
"The one is in everything, and everything is in the one. And everything is the one."
This is the core teaching of Gurbani.
How is it different from the Isha Upanishad is what I ask Rawel.
The Isha Upanishad teaching is explained thus:

The Answer to this question is necessary.
Rawel Singh claims we (Sikhs) are neither Hindu nor Muslim.
Not Muslim I can understand, for the one of the Muslims is different from the one of Dharam.
If he can tell me how the one of Sikhi is different from the one of Isha Upanishad, he would have explained how Sikhs are not Hindu.


On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 9:14 AM Deva Sarran Samaroo <devasamaroo@hotmail.com> wrote:
THE VEDIC MANTRAS SAYS
SATVE BHAVANTU SUKHINAHA
SARVE SANTU NIRAMAHA
SARVE BHADRANI PASYANTU
MA KASHCHID DUKH BHAGBHAWET

OM SAHANA VAVATU SAHANAU BHUNACTU SHAVIRYAM KAR VAHVAVAHAI TEJASVINAU DHI TAMASTU VIDVISHAVAHAI

OM HIRANYAGARBHA SAMAWARTHATHAGREY BHOOTASYAJATHA PATHAREY KAASI DIYO YO YO NAH: PRACHODAYA

SIMPLE EVERYONE IS EQUAL RELIGION IS MANMADE
BIRTH CONCEPTION IS KNOWN UNKNOWN LIFE BECOMES
IT IS BIRTH THAT CAUSE DIVISION FROM THOUGHTS DOGMA EMOTIONS DESIRES AND KAAM KRODH MAD MOH LOBH IS THE JOURNEY OF CONFUSED LIFE

DEVA

From: sikh-identity@googlegroups.com <sikh-identity@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Baldev Singh <baldevsingh300@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 4:26:08 AM
To: Jasmeet Kaur <jazmeet@yahoo.com>
Cc: Jagjit Ahuja <jagjit.ahuja@gmail.com>; DevinderSingh Gulati <devindersingh.gulati2@gmail.com>; Understanding Sikhism <sikh-identity@googlegroups...com>
Subject: Re: Are religions equal
 
All human beings are equal , our religion says, our Guru says iii

On Tue, 16 Jun 2020, 08:52 'Jasmeet Kaur' via Understanding Sikhism, <sikh-identity@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Did G. Nanak start a new religion ? 

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On 16-Jun-2020, at 8:12 AM, Jagjit Ahuja <jagjit.ahuja@gmail.com> wrote:

Awal Allah noor upaiha
Kudrat key sabh banday

Manas ki jaat sabh ek pehchanbo



On Mon 15 Jun, 2020, 9:35 AM DevinderSingh Gulati, <devindersingh.gulati2@gmail.com> wrote:
"ALL RELIGIONS ARE EQUAL"  asserts Rawel Singh. By what value?

Many assert that Bhai Mardana, Nanak's closest companion and Rabab player was the first Sikh.
Mardana continued to practice his Muslim faith, and his descendents even today are practicing Muslims even while they sing kirtan in Sikh shrines left behind in Pakistan.
Could he have been a Muslim and a Sikh at the same time?
No, Muslims are not Sikh, asserts Rawel Singh.
But they are equal.

Hardev Singh on the other hand asserts "sabte vada Satguru Nanak".
[Nanak is the greatest]

Did simple Mardana even know the intricacies of the two faiths?
Listen to this discussion, Rawel Singh and then tell me;
Are you Hindu or Musalman?

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