dear All friends
pls do'nt make argument with over beleivings, Most of keralites believes as a traditional continuation. Nobody change beleives and continue their arguments.
First of all religions are good and our fore fathers create for strong man not punish or make slave the weak one. And teach as after die good one will go paradise,so try to help and do good for human beings. And think about whats happening our surroundings,and unite for our common needs. We are thinking for survival here first,then future.
best regards
From: Thomas Mathew thomasmathew47@hotmail.com
To: keralites@yaearhoogroups.com; pskoya2004@yahoo.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2012 4:18 AM
Subject: RE: [www.keralites.net] (Trinity) God teachings or Man's
To: keralites@yaearhoogroups.com; pskoya2004@yahoo.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2012 4:18 AM
Subject: RE: [www.keralites.net] (Trinity) God teachings or Man's
Dear All
Unfortunately people get into arguments on issarguues which they have no idea. The question of trinity is beyond the comprehension of common people and should be left to the people who know about it. Definitely it is not for a Muslim to comment on the beliefs of Christianity.
Thomas Mathew
To: Keralites@YahooGroups.comFrom: pskoya2004@yahoo.comDate: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 00:42:27 -0700Subject: Re: [www.keralites.net] (Trinity) God teachings or Man's
First I would like to say that this is not for an argument but want more explanation.
We are all creations of GOD. Thus we can also claim that our father is GOD. You may question it since there is a middle man. Then the first man, Adam is the Son of GOD.
Since there is no middle man to Jesus's birth, you claim that his father is GOD. Actually there is no meaning in it. He is one of the prophets.
Please explain without quoting from somebody, if you can. The logic behind your claim.
Our worship must be to GOD only and you are aware that there is no middle man required to carry it. Everybody is controlled by GOD and thus everybody has link with GOD. He is the supreme power and there is no ruler for him.
regards
PSK
From: subin benjamin <subinbenjamin@gmail.com>
To: Keralites <Keralites@YahooGroups.com>
Sent: Monday, June 4, 2012 11:02 AM
Subject: Re: [www.keralites.net] (Trinity) God teachings or Man's
To: Keralites <Keralites@YahooGroups.com>
Sent: Monday, June 4, 2012 11:02 AM
Subject: Re: [www.keralites.net] (Trinity) God teachings or Man's
Dear ,[
I wanted to explain you each and every point you mentioned here on Why Jesus is not GOD and 'Some people' believe in trinity. but it is a vast subject which cannot be encapsulated in this small square space of a mail box ,However , i will give you main points .
It is difficult for many to understand because In John 12 --Isaiah says : "He has blinded their eyes and deadened their hearts, so they can neither see with their eyes, nor understand with their hearts, nor turn--and I would heal them. "Isaiah said this because he saw Jesus' glory and spoke about him.
1)Philippians 2: Your attitude should be the same as that of Christ Jesus:6Who, being in very nature God, did not consider equality with God something to be grasped, 7but made himself nothing, taking the very nature of a servant, being made in human likeness. 8And being found in appearance as a man, he humbled himself and became obedient to death-- even death on a cross!
2)Colossians 2: For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
3)Matthew 28: 19Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit
4)2 Corinthians 13: 14May the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you all.
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Many will not be able to follow this because :
Job 11: 7"Can you fathom the mysteries of God? Can you probe the limits of the Almighty? 8They are higher than the heavens -- what can you do? They are deeper than the depths of the grave -- what can you know? 9Their measure is longer than the earth and wider than the sea.
As i told , this is not so simple to understand .. it takes lot of effort to learn the trinity
Stay Blessed ..
Thanks
I wanted to explain you each and every point you mentioned here on Why Jesus is not GOD and 'Some people' believe in trinity. but it is a vast subject which cannot be encapsulated in this small square space of a mail box ,However , i will give you main points .
It is difficult for many to understand because In John 12 --Isaiah says : "He has blinded their eyes and deadened their hearts, so they can neither see with their eyes, nor understand with their hearts, nor turn--and I would heal them. "Isaiah said this because he saw Jesus' glory and spoke about him.
1)Philippians 2: Your attitude should be the same as that of Christ Jesus:6Who, being in very nature God, did not consider equality with God something to be grasped, 7but made himself nothing, taking the very nature of a servant, being made in human likeness. 8And being found in appearance as a man, he humbled himself and became obedient to death-- even death on a cross!
2)Colossians 2: For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
3)Matthew 28: 19Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit
4)2 Corinthians 13: 14May the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you all.
--------------------------------------
Many will not be able to follow this because :
Job 11: 7"Can you fathom the mysteries of God? Can you probe the limits of the Almighty? 8They are higher than the heavens -- what can you do? They are deeper than the depths of the grave -- what can you know? 9Their measure is longer than the earth and wider than the sea.
As i told , this is not so simple to understand .. it takes lot of effort to learn the trinity
Stay Blessed ..
Thanks
On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 1:41 AM, Lucille Anderson <lucilleanderson12@yahoo.com> wrote:
(Trinity)God teachings or Man'sSome people believe in the Trinity teachingsif this is true then why isn' the word Trinityin the bible".people believe that God Jesus and the ,Holy Spirit is one God.Jesus and his Father are one, just like a,husband and wife are one.they are in union with each other but they,are two different people but are on one,accord with each other... Like Jesus ,and GodThey say that God Jesus And The,Holy Spirit are all equal.none higher, lesser or greater.Read John 14-28... where Jesus is telling,his disciples the Father is greater than,
himself that alone tells us that Jesus is not ,equal to God also read Matthew 3-16Jesus is the son of God...not God himself... also turn your bibles,over to John-3-16 which tells us that God,gave us his only begotten son...againthis also prove that Jesus is not God...Now if Jesus was God, why then do it,says inMatthew 24-36concerning that day and hour nobody knows,neither the angels of heavens nor the son.But only the FatherNow if Jesus was God...wouldn't he ,know of that day and hour?Read John 11-41... Before Jesus Rose ,Lazarus from the dead who was Jesus ,praying to? was it himself ? of course not..He was praying to the Father.now if Jesus was God why then wouldhe pray to himself ? make no senseJesus is the son of God...and the scripturesproves it... still i can't even find the word,Trinity in the Bible... matter of the fact,in any bible...The Trinity is man teaching...and not God'sGod has no beginning nor endJesus has a beginning and also he died and,rose in three days if Jesus was God then,who was running things when God,was dead for those three days?
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