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[www.keralites.net] Re: [TheBecoming] मनूवाद की आतंकवाद / Terrorism of MANUvaad and also why CAA is UNCONSTITUTIONAL (explained by former Chief Justice of Delhi High Court)

 

Trying to unify all Hindus under one roof is like trying to bring all carnivore and herbivore under one roof and make them live in peace.
Religion has never united people.
Christianity was reasonably united when it was a mere cult in the pagan Roman empire. But once they became a political fore under Emperor Constantine in the 4th century the problems started as a result of which it split into two in 1084. Ever since it has splintered into 40000 or more denominations who do not see eye to eye.
It was the same with Islam. It was unitedd under Mohammad who was a warlord whom everyone feared. But after his death they began fighing as a result of which 3 of the 4 of his first successors as well as his graandsons were killed by other Muslims in a struggle for power.
If well defined religions like Christianity and Islam cannot keep their adherents together, how do you expect an undefinable religion like Hinduism keep their adherents united.
Right from the times of the Greek myths fathers and sons have fought each other for power though they worshiped the same gods. What make you think that it will be any different in India?
There is a social or political theory called Michel's Iron Law of Oligarchy according to which a rule by an elite, or oligarchy, is inevitable as an "iron law" within any democratic organization as part of the "tactical and technical necessities" of organization. But with the passage of time these Oligarchs will resort to undemocratic practices to capture power to suit them. This is well depicted by Orwell in his work "The Animal Farm'. It has become a reality in India where Congress came to power in the name of the people and now has deteriorated to a dynasty with scant respect for democracy.
For more on this theory of oligarchy read https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_law_of_oligarchy

On Fri, 7 Feb 2020 at 05:58, Suresh Vyas skanda987@gmail.com [TheBecoming] <TheBecoming@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

The time is to create unity among all types of Hindus, and respect all for what they are.
So that with unity Bhaarat canbe made a Hindu Raashtra (Hindu State).

jaya sri krishna!
-sv


On Tue, Feb 4, 2020 at 4:52 PM Suresh Vyas <skanda987@gmail.com> wrote:
Prabhupad's disciples are Krishna Bhaktia, i.e. Vishnu Bhaktas. So, they are Bhakti Yogis.
His movement spread Krishna Bhakti (one of several Hindu ways to realize God). What they do is per Krishna's message. So, there is no reason to hate them or look down at them. Like Hindus, they do not force conversion.

jaya sri krishna!

-sv
hinduunation..ccom


On Mon, Feb 3, 2020 at 8:46 PM Thirumala Raya Halemane <trhalemane@gmail.com> wrote:
yes, i read through the whole interview and the comments. looking at its history etc, my assessment is that ISKCON and other organizations (like sai baba and various others) have been like the good cop tools used by forces behind the scenes that wish to undermine and damage traditional / orthodox brahmin and hindu society cultures by affecting them in various ways, psychological and more. it is very likely that involvement of evil parts of global power structure targeting Hinduism and to use ISKCON type Hinduism in ways that will serve the strengthening of that anti-brahmin, anti-hindu, anti-india inclined global power structure in various countries of the world is very likely the goal. the interview itself is somewhat strange, also from a different era, and, mis-information, mis-understanding also there. it may have been designed to create a negative image of hindu culture and philosophy among the liberally inclined and the young, to justify anti-hindu agenda among westerners, for justifying their anti-brahmin, anti-swamijis targetings etc, to raise the west as modern and good, to put down the east as old and bad, for which they need to first create / manufacture a bad impression (justified or not), then do the real field work hit job  etc 
this email reply comment from me also unlikely to be posted to the whole group, just like various others that were not allowed in recent days, but here it is anyway. 

On Sun, Feb 2, 2020 at 9:56 AM Suresh Vyas <skanda987@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Hindus,

At below link Bhaktivedant Swami Prabhupad tells how women are treated in the Vedic Culture.
Once it is understood, you will be well prepared to answer those who tell that Hindu Dharma tells to mistreat women.

jaya sri krishna!
sv

 

On Sat, Feb 1, 2020 at 7:26 PM Thirumala Raya Halemane <trhalemane@gmail.com> wrote:

my reply to the becoming group did not go through,  then I sent it to group owner
anyway, here is my reply.
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it is very unfortunate that inferiority complex among some hindus / Indians makes them feel afraid of what might happen if society power is entrusted to other hindus, .. poor chaps, .. paapa .. they even give example of what happened in germany with the Nazis etc .. and try to draw parallels … of course, bad things happened during the emergency rule in 1970s, during partition in 1947-48, during various Mughal expansions in the north and in the south, targeting brahmins especially …. as is well known ... . (so hindus beware of forces waiting against them )  ...
why is the currently irrelevant and unused manu smriti targeted ??? of course, to take up and try using whatever will work to induce inferiority among hindu adherents, to induce fear among lower castes, among women etc about hindu rule in order to undercut, all, psychologically, it has been, and still is, part of the anti-hindu strategy. ...

i have not read manu smriti. but anyway, even in the manu smriti design for society, I would guess that it is not raw manly power working against women to subdue them and keep them suppressed. it would be along the lines of dharma where fathers, husbands and sons serve, fulfill the needs, and protect the women.. same with the lower castes, who are also integrated into society according to their skills, abilities, contributions etc. perhaps, deviations are harshly treated to make the system strong, secure, robust. as in maintaining strict discipline that is more like in the military or in fighting wars, or similar in Islam. .. basically means deviations from mainstream not well tolerated. very strict. 

it does not mean there is psychological suppression of women by fathers, husbands, sons, many of whom would probably consult the woman / women in the house before taking decisions, in other words doing what they desire or is good for them, while under their care. perhaps most societies have operated this way, being respectful of their women. 

it is love, not discrimination.  modern technology, industrialization and high technology globalization has changed the way people live, and societies are transforming, women roles also changing somewhat, but not entirely of course.

so, these people who are doing this type of criticism have to understand better, and love to understand hindu sanatana dharma culture / civilization by throwing away their bias and hatred against it, and bias / hatred against hindus in power, if any, and by shedding off the inferiority complex that has seeped into hindu society for decades and centuries because of various reasons. inferiority complex is basically, at its core, comes because of negativity towards one's own self. the solution is to mentally replace it with positivity / LOVE..  


On Sat, Feb 1, 2020 at 4:31 PM Suresh Vyas skanda987@gmail.com [TheBecoming] <TheBecoming@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

Hindus have no interest to learn Dharma from you.
They will learn Dharma from a bonafide Dharma aacharya in guru shishya paramparaa.

Additionally, Manu Smrit was never a book used in any Hindu Court.
We have many Dharma Shaastra, so do not depend solely on Manu Smriti.
You are an anti-Hindu hiding behind a Hindu name.
You please take me out of the email distribution.

jaya sri krishna!
-sv



On Sat, Feb 1, 2020 at 2:00 PM Viswa Ghosh viswa.ghosh@gmail...com [TheBecoming] <TheBecoming@yahoogroups..com> wrote:
 

THIS IS WHAT IS COMING IF WE ALLOW BJP / RSS / VHP TAKE OVER OUR SOCIETY, OUR COUNTRY!!

After dictating the rules for various castes, in Chapter 5 of MANUSMRITI, what did MANU recommend for women? 

  • एषां शौचविधिः कृत्स्नो द्रव्यशुद्धीस तथा-एव च।  उक्तो वः सर्ववर्णांनां स्त्रीणां धर्मान निबोधत।। (5. 146 )
Thus the rules of personal purification for men of all castes (varna / jaati), and those of cleaning (inanimate) things, have been fully declared to you: hear now the duties (dharma) of women.

  • बालया वा युवत्या वा वृध्दया वा-अपि योषिता। न स्वतन्त्रयेणं कर्त्तव्य किं चिद कार्यं गृहेष्व अपि।। (5 . 147 )
For a girl, for a young woman, or even for an aged one, nothing must be done independently (by her), even in her own house.

  • बाल्ये पितुर वशे तिष्ठेत पांणीग्राहस्य यौवने। पुत्राणां भर्तरि प्रेते न भजेत स्त्री स्वतंत्रताम।। (5 . 148 )
In childhood a female must be subject to her father, in youth to her husband, when her husband (lord) is dead, to her sons; a woman must never be independent.

If you are already horrified with what is recommended in the GREAT books of hindutva FASCISM, you may want to check out why CAA is unconstitutional as explained by former Chief Justice of Delhi High Court and former Chairman of the Law Commission (Ajit Prakash Shah)....


  Next, we will cover why an unconstitutional CAA will impact crores of non-Muslims and Muslims...  

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Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—Because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

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[www.keralites.net] Re: [aryayouthgroup] Re: [FHRS_USA] Fw: All Muslims are illegal immigrants in Hindusthan

 

Sanjeev,
What you say may be true though it is false for all Muslims. As long as we cannot separate the good Muslims from the bad Muslims what is the solution? If you have no solution why harp on it when we have more pressing issues?
According to Jesus, there must be one flock and one shepherd and in that Christianity is no different from Islam. But over 2000 years of never ending conflicts and  wars for bringing about the one-flock-one-shepherd world Christianity has learned that it is not practical. It is a matter of time before Islam also learns the hard way that their dreams of a single Khalifate are impossible.
In the meantime you also have to consider Muslim nations like Indonesia where the Hindus  constitute 83% of Bali live in peace and prosper under Muslims . So why do you judge Muslims by the Muslims of Syria or Saudi Arabia and not by the Muslims of Indonesia or other places.
There are two ways of thinking. one is to reach a conclusin first and then find evidence for it as you are now dcoing. But the logical way is to find evidence first and then to reach a conclusion. So when you think of bad Muslims of the middle east also think of the good Muslims of Indonesia who constitute 87% of the population.

On Fri, 7 Feb 2020 at 10:36, sanjeev kulkarni jeevkulkarni@yahoo.com [aryayouthgroup] <aryayouthgroup@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

We reluctantly mention Gandhi because of some old generation people
still consider him an ideal solution to today's problems.  They learned
nothing from history and will commit the same blunders. That is why
we want to give them a wakeup call.

And never commit a bluer to think Muslims are like any other community.
Their aspirations are converting the whole world to 'Dar-es-salaam', declare
only Koran can be the guidance and whatever is taught in it is the only
solution.  In fact, complete surrender to Middle-eastern barbarism of 7th
century. I won't be surprised if they again start stoning to death the
scientists for telling something contradicting Koran.  There is no common
aspiration.  So wake up.  They have given enough signals for anyone to
understand what will happen if they are not dealt with severally like 
China does. China is not run by sanghis but they know how to handle
this menace.

Sanjeev

On Friday, 7 February, 2020, 10:01:50 am IST, Xavier William varekatx@gmail.com [aryayouthgroup] <aryayouthgroup@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 

Why dissect Gandhi now or the others? Why are we so interested in the past ignoring the present and the future that awaits us?
European kingdoms were always at war with each other, Now they see sense and cooperate with each other which would not have been possible if they focused on harped on their past.
Muslims, Christians and others may be undesirable. But what is the solution? Can we exterminate them as Hitler tried to do with the Jews?
We have differences and commonalities with almost everyone including our wives and children. If we focus and harp on the differences with others we shall never find peace. On the other hand if we focus on the common aspirations we can build a future for the common good.
There are people who are dismayed or disappointed with their life and they are the ones who blame others for their state of affairs. Then there are the politicians who stand to gain from such differences and the problems that arise therefrom. Dont fall into their traps! Thats what I have to say.
Here in India Hindus have the majority and the Muslims are the minority. But remember in Malaysia and elsewhere things are in reverse.

On Fri, 7 Feb 2020 at 09:33, sanjeev kulkarni jeevkulkarni@yahoo.com [aryayouthgroup] <aryayouthgroup@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

I knew you must be from the batch two generations earlier than mine.
That was generally the generation muddy minded and not trained in critical 
thinking - only emotionally driven.  But get acquainted with the
new assessment of Gandhi by others -

It seems you have not read this article.  So again I am attaching.

Sanjeev

On Friday, 7 February, 2020, 04:29:04 am IST, Dhirendra Sharma dhiren.sharma32@gmail.com [FHRS_USA] <fhrs_usa@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 

"Dedi hame Azadi... is nothing but fraud played on gullible Indians"...

to say so and  believe  so,  You must be gullible - and ignorant person.. You seem to be ignorant
of world history of civilisation ....

I have witnessed the Freedom struggle and partition syndrome- my father  was among those 
 80,000 Indians  imprisoned  on Gandhi's call 1942,British! Quit India movement.

We don't belittle Netaji - contribution - but Gandhiji's  Satyagraha mantra,  in 20th century,
  brought Independence ,  for  more  than 30 Afro-Asian  colonies! 
 I request you NOT TO INSULT THE FATHER OF THE NATION. You  must observe basic
courtesy  not to use impolite language when you ref to historical icons.of Mother India. 


Sabko sanmati de Bhagwan!
Dhirendra Sharma

 


On Mon, Feb 3, 2020 at 2:00 PM Deva Sarran Samaroo devasamaroo@hotmail.com [FHRS_USA] <FHRS_USA@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

The time has come to get Hindus United. Describing MUSLIMS and ISLAM will not save HINDUISM OR MOTHER INDIA.

MUSLIMS AND ISLAM WILL DO WHAT THEY WANT TO DO. THEY DO NOT RESPECT LAWS OF ANY NON MUSLIMS COUNTRIES EVEN QUR'ANIC THEY ONLY SEE THE 2200 SURAS OF THE QURAN THAT SAYS KILL NON BELIEVERS AND DESTROYED NON MUSLIMS COUNTRIES. SHAHIN BAUG IS A STRATIGIC PLAN OF DECEPTION USING ANTI CAA INTENT TO RADICALISE YOUNG MUSLIMS AND CLAIM IT IS THEIR DEMOCRATIC RIGHTS . WHEREAS THEY SUPPORT WHAT IS HAPPENING IN PAKISTAN AND BANGLADESH THE KIDNAPPING OF HINDU GIRLS RAPE AND MARRIED THEM INTO ISLAM.

THE LEFTIST ANTI MODIJI ANTI BJP ANTI INDIA PSYCHOPHANTS LIBERAL SECULARISTS LEFTISTS GANG DO NOT SEE BEYOND RHETORICS OF BEING ANTI MODIJI THAT ISLAM WHOLE OBJECTIVES  IRRESPECTIVE OF IS TO DESTROY INDIA  HINDUISM AND MORE SO TO KILL PM NARENDRA MODIJI FIRST THEN YOGI ADITYANATH N AMIT SHAH

GANDHI - NEHRU DID WHAT THEY WANTS  WE HAVE TO DO WHAT WE WANT. HISTORY GIVES US  A LESSON LET US NOT REPEAT SAME  BY PONTIFICATING.

GIVE A WAKE UP CALL ON HINDUS IRRESPECTIVE OF CASTE CREED OR OBC STATUS FIRSTLY TO RID KEJRIVAL IN DELHI AND LET BJP WIN.

DEVA

LONDON

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taking sides and belittling our heroes is not right. We are not doing any service to our freedom fighters. whether INA or congress and Gandhiji all should be treated with equal respect. 30-40 yrs of struggle and INA's action combined brought us here. Therefore, praising one against the other is meanthing. 
I am not sure, but remember having seen in movie when Netaji is seen asking captain Lakshmi whether he had any right to get so many soldiers killed in a battle of unequals? He understood that the battle was between a mighty power and ill equipped freedom fighters. Was it justified? 

Not going into that, I believe we as indians, should stop praising one against the other. We did nothing, did not take part in any struggle and now sitting in jedge chair to pass judgements. damn wrong

girish b desai


On Monday, February 3, 2020, 12:41:13 AM CST, sanjeev kulkarni jeevkulkarni@yahoo.com [FHRS_USA] <fhrs_usa@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 

Sorry, people have started re-assessing legacy of Gandhi.  Also,
Dedi hame Azadi... is nothing but fraud played on gullible Indians.
It negates herculean efforts by freedom-fighters, Azad Hind Seana
and scores of revolutionaries who laid their lives for freedom.
Their contribution is deliberately negated and ignored until today
by congress propagandists.  Also the following assessment by Richard
Grenier is an eye-opener for those who are not driven by emotions
and have the courage to face reality and open mind to evaluate
fresh evidence and assessment.


Sanjeev

On Monday, 3 February, 2020, 11:16:44 am IST, Dhirendra Sharma dhiren.sharma32@gmail.com [FHRS_USA] <fhrs_usa@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 

Dear Editor:  FHRS- USA!
I share your commitment to Krinvanto Vishvam-Aryam..
.
But Condemning Mahatma Gandhi  reflects our lack of  knowledge of historical development. at the end of 2nd World War..

Narendra Modi once said NO ONE IS HOLIER THAN THE OTHERS... There is no Hindu blood group
that distinguish us from the non-Hindus and there is no wrong doings/ SIN that the muslims commit and we the Hindus (ARYAs) don't!

I have  witnessed the Partition syndrome  - you name it what evil we HIndus (Aryans) did
not commit?  If  millions of white Christian- women were raped and killed in the 2nd World War,  it was  was the Mahatma  Gandhi who opposed the Partition of India,   and  save  the honour of FEE India.   No  leader was there to stop the raping
and killings  in newly  Independent India!

The   Mahatma, age  80, was unarmed  ( no security provided by the state),  in the evening  prayer,  singing
  the Ram-dhun:
               Raghupati-Ragahav Raja Ram ...patitpavan Sita-Ram !  when he was killed by a Maratha Hindu  ( ARYA) Brahmin!

Those  HIndu  chauvinists are ignorant  of Gandhiji's  Historical contribution to world civilisation.
...DEDI  AAZADI HAME - BINA KHADG - BINA-DHAL
 O! SABARMATI -KE SANT!  TUNE KAR DIYA KAMMAL

 Dhirendra Sharma,
Founder- Editor; PHILOSOPHY &  SOCIAL ACTION,qty (1975-2005)
Shastri, Sahityacharya, Nyaya-Tirtha,
Ph.D. ( Lond).

On Mon, Feb 3, 2020 at 4:50 AM RSingh305@aol.com [FHRS_USA] <FHRS_USA@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

Sanjeev ji
Your irrefutable arguments should convince any doubting Tom but yet there are die hard brainwashed Hindus who put Gandhi ABOVE Bharat.

They hold the view, "Don't mention PARTITION..... It may reflect badly on Gandhi!"

Sadly, it is a fact that for over thousand years the top leader, or ruler, (King or Emperor) in Hindusthan was above the country..... Hence Oaths of Loyalty were towards these mortals in the highest posts of power. 

That slave's tradition continues to this day when Nehru and Gandhi are BEYOND reproach!

Where the citizens are BORN FREE we see in what esteem Hitler and Mussolini are held by the Germans and the Italians respectively today.

If we aspire to see the HINDUS at the same level of intellect & patriotism, then both Gandhi and Nehru ought to be TRIED for the unconditional surrender of Lahore IN PERPETUITY without a condition, without referendum.

regards
rajput
2.2.2020

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He did understand.  But he was dishonest.  But again, Gandhi as a person
is not important.  Hindus as a society followed him was the main problem. 
Don't blame a joker for acting like a joker.  Blame yourselves for going
to the circus.

Sanjeev

On Sunday, 2 February, 2020, 08:57:22 pm IST, vasant sardesai vasant_sardesai@yahoo.co.in [FHRS_USA] <fhrs_usa@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
The difficulty is that Mahatma Gandhi and other leaders never understood the Mantra they have used about Hinduism and Hindus.They quoted only  the first part of teh Mantra "Ahinsa Param Dharma to give prominence to Ahinsa. forgetting that the remaining part is equally or even more  important..


V. S. Sardesai

On Saturday, 1 February, 2020, 2:21:26 pm IST, sanjeev kulkarni jeevkulkarni@yahoo.com [FHRS_USA] <fhrs_usa@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
1.  Gandhi advised only Hindus to bow to rapists and commit suicide 
as a gesture of grand sacrifice.  In our culture 'sacrifice' is glorified 
'unconditionally'. Mostly it is a sacrifice for the sake of sacrifice without
any goal.   Anyone sacrificing something (even if it is extremely stupid act 
considering the consequences) is considered Mahatma or saintly.  Once 
the person is installed at a high pedestal of Mahatmahood, he cannot 
dismount the tiger and has to act in such a way that his image of a 
modern-day saint is reinforced.  For that, he has to sacrifice the followers 
and disregard justice or even humanity. Gandhi fell for this mahatma 
syndrome and did everything for it with total disregard to peace, non-
violence, justice or even humanity.  It is estimated his politics resulted
in four million deaths immediately, not to count innumerable rapes,
four wars and holocaust of Hindus left in Pakistan over 7 decades.
And the world over he is considered an icon of non-violence and peace!
Nothing can get more pervert than this.

2.  Hindus have more traitors than Muslims have terrorists among them.
So it is short-sighted to ask for the union of India again.....  Pakistan / Bangladesh
was a strategic blunder of Muslims.  Unfortunately, Hindus have no vision
to exploit the hand destiny has dealt to them.  600 million Muslims in united
India and fragmented Hindu society with their leaders who are willing to
sell their interests for personal considerations is a lethal combination for
Hindus.  Muslims stupidly trifurcated themselves.  Take full advantage of it.
If Hindus have a brain, they will destroy what is already divided.

3. If Hindus rely on state support for their survival, they have no future.
Period!

Sanjeev

On Saturday, 1 February, 2020, 07:31:15 am IST, RSingh305@aol.com [FHRS_USA] <fhrs_usa@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
Ref. e-mail below. How true!
1947 saw TOTAL COLLAPSE of India at the feet of MA Jinnah- all due to treachery by NEHRU and appeasement policies of Gandhi. 

(*Why didn't barrister Gandhi accuse Jinnah of HIGH TREASON when he demanded Pakistan? 
*Why didn't Gandhi undertake a "fast for two minutes" in protest at the proposed break up of India {his Akhand Bharat}? 
*How did they BOTH make sure that NO Hindu was killed, robbed, abducted or raped in Pakistan?
*Why are the two above, or beyond, ACCOUNTABILITY?)

After surrendering one third of India unconditionally to establish an exclusive ISLAMIC homeland (Pakistan) for the INDIAN Muslims, at least the CONSTITUTION of "Broken Bleeding" Bharat should have denied the Muslims FULL citizenship rights.

Nowhere on earth can the MAJORITY community be "FLOGGED" twice for NO fault of theirs!

At last three things must be done: 
1.  DISCUSS PARTITION IN PARLIAMENT and ASSESS THE PART PLAYED BY GANDHI AND NEHRU.

2.  WRITE A NEW CONSTITUTION IN THE LIGHT OF PARTITION OF INDIA, AND NOT ON THE MODELS OF UK & USA (both with "UNITED" in their names!).

3.  Explain to the nation the strategic defence implications of the BORDER at Wagah instead of Khyber Pass.

The esteemed writer (below) is right. INDIAN Muslims are "legal" in Islamic Pakistan and "ILLEGAL" in secular (Partitioned) India. Their passports ought to be marked "TEMPORARY" 0r "ALIEN".

Those, including the UNO, who may cry "Discrimination!!" should be asked to UNITE India in the borders of 1947, and end the "Mischief of Muslims"!
 
We should not fail to notice the beginnings of Muslim/Congress agitation that can result in widespread violence and a lot of bloodshed eventually. Partitioned India under present Constitution is UNSTABLE- socially and politically.

Those who blessed the Indian Muslims with their separate Homeland and conferred ISLAMIC identity on Pakistan, deliberately wiped out the HINDU identity in Bharat by Constitution! 

How could the Hindus tolerate this? Without State support Hinduism is "evaporating" (dying) in Hindusthan!

rajput
1 Feb 2020


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Sent: Fri, 31 Jan 2020 16:26
Subject: Re: [FHRS_USA] Fw: All Muslims are illegal immigrants in Hindusthan

 
Our culture and philosophy made the masses run after the likes of 
Gandhi/Nehru. Otherwise, they had a choice to follow Savarkar too. 
Nehru and Gandhi were only the symptoms of the mental disease of
society due to ideals bombarded on society for more than two thousand 
years after the advent of Buddhism.  Nehru/Gandhi would not pop-up 
suddenly in Western or Islamic countries.  Their poison seed was destined 
to find the fertile land only in Hindu India.  Even now a large section of the
society thinks there must be something drastically wrong in guarding
self-interest.  We have over-glorified sacrifice and poverty.  

Sanjeev

On Friday, 31 January, 2020, 08:44:20 pm IST, vasant s sardesai.vasant@gmail.com [FHRS_USA] <fhrs_usa@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
We, the Indians are suffering because of Nehru=Gandhi's faults.

On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 10:09 AM sanjeev kulkarni jeevkulkarni@yahoo.com [FHRS_USA] <FHRS_USA@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 


China declares Muslims will have to take the permission of the Chinese 
government to procreate children.

All Muslims are illegal immigrants 
in Hindusthan



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Insaan-ko, Insaan-se ho Bhai-chaara, Yehi hai Paigaam Hamara!

Dhirendra Sharma
Centre for Science Policy/Concerned
Scientists & Philosophers,
"Nirmal-Nilay", Dehradun 248009 (India).
+(0135) 2736027.Mob. 989788 3741
http://psaindia.infotechlogic.com/



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"All new ideas good or bad, great or small start with a one-man minority" - anonymous

A man without god is a man. A God without man is nothing!!

The greatest knowledge is the knowledge that there is so much more to know and the greatest discovery is the discovery that there is so much more to discover

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