Sunday 13 September 2020

Re: [www.keralites.net] World Happiness Report

 

Look Rajesh,
They are the Sanghis who boast all the time about how great their heritage is and how poor all other heritages are. This and our our needless bickerings over religion and invasions are one of the main reasons for our sad state of affairs vis a vis other nations in the happiness index. In fact we are worse than most Muslim countries in the index though you have only insult for them.

On Mon, 14 Sep 2020 at 09:55, RAJESH SHREEDHARAN rajesh.shreedharan@gmail.com [Keralites] <Keralites@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

why blame sanghis for this..is it a recent development?..Look Mr. Xavier, as usual instead of presenting the reporting, you added spice to it writing the last line. As usual...bahut khujli hoti hai. it is because of pest like you that India's Index is so low. sadist personality are you.

On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 9:36 AM Xavier William varekatx@gmail.com [Keralites] <Keralites@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

The World Happiness Report is an annual publication of the United Nations Sustainable Development Solutions Network. It contains articles, and rankings of national happiness based on respondent ratings of their own lives,[1] which the report also correlates with various life factors. As of March 2020, Finland was ranked the happiest country in the world three times in a row. 155 countries are ranked based on factors such as real GDP per capita, social support, healthy life expectancy, freedom to make life choices, generosity, and perceptions of corruption. India with its heritage and philosophy ranks 140 among the 155 countries. This indexing started in 2012 and we are sinking lower every year in the ranking.. Pakistan is far better than us with a rank of 67. In fact most Muslim nations rank higher than we do. The only countries which rank lower than India are 141 Liberia, 142 Comoros, 143 Madagascar, 44 Lesotho, 145 Burundi, 146 Zimbabwe, 147 Haiti, 148 Botswana, , 149 Syria, 150 Malawi,151 Yemen, 152 Rwanda, 153 Tanzania,154 Afghanistan,155 Central African Republic

So Sangis, Go on boasting and bragging about your glorious heritage. At position 140 in the index there are 15 more ranks for you to sink.
I

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Re: [www.keralites.net] World Happiness Report

 

why blame sanghis for this..is it a recent development?..Look Mr. Xavier, as usual instead of presenting the reporting, you added spice to it writing the last line. As usual...bahut khujli hoti hai. it is because of pest like you that India's Index is so low. sadist personality are you.

On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 9:36 AM Xavier William varekatx@gmail.com [Keralites] <Keralites@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

The World Happiness Report is an annual publication of the United Nations Sustainable Development Solutions Network. It contains articles, and rankings of national happiness based on respondent ratings of their own lives,[1] which the report also correlates with various life factors. As of March 2020, Finland was ranked the happiest country in the world three times in a row. 155 countries are ranked based on factors such as real GDP per capita, social support, healthy life expectancy, freedom to make life choices, generosity, and perceptions of corruption. India with its heritage and philosophy ranks 140 among the 155 countries. This indexing started in 2012 and we are sinking lower every year in the ranking.. Pakistan is far better than us with a rank of 67. In fact most Muslim nations rank higher than we do. The only countries which rank lower than India are 141 Liberia, 142 Comoros, 143 Madagascar, 44 Lesotho, 145 Burundi, 146 Zimbabwe, 147 Haiti, 148 Botswana, , 149 Syria, 150 Malawi,151 Yemen, 152 Rwanda, 153 Tanzania,154 Afghanistan,155 Central African Republic

So Sangis, Go on boasting and bragging about your glorious heritage. At position 140 in the index there are 15 more ranks for you to sink.
I

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[www.keralites.net] Fwd: [dalit_edu] Re: [TheBecoming] SANATHANA VEDIC DHARMA RICH HERITAGE CULTURE TRADITIONS AND VALUES

 

Deva Saran has been clamouring for a return to Dharma. Below is a mail illustrating the dharma practiced in Vedic times.

---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: Kuldip Kumar jaikuldip@gmail.com [dalit_edu] <dalit_edu@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2020 at 22:04
Subject: Re: [dalit_edu] Re: [TheBecoming] SANATHANA VEDIC DHARMA RICH HERITAGE CULTURE TRADITIONS AND VALUES
To: dalit edu <dalit_edu@yahoogroups.com>


 

These so-called warriors were called like this because:
1. Krishan was born to Devaki but brought up by Yashodha. Hence to clarify that he is not a child of yashodha but is of devaki he was called devakinandan.
2. Ganga came in the court of Prateek and sat on his right thigh and demanded to satisfy her sex desire. Prateek said that as she has sat on his right thigh hence he cannot fulfill her sex desire. So his son shantanu had sex with her and Bheesham was born. but ganga left the newborn and went away. the child became motherless. Hence people called him gangaputar. 
3. Hanuman's mother anjani was born to Kesari. One day she bathed and put on thin clothes. Pawan saw her and was filled with lust. He conveyed his desire to have sex with her and promised a robust son like him. Anjani agreed and Hanuman was born. As he was not biological son of kesari but of Anjani only hence anjaniputar.
4. Kunti, an unmarried and virgin once called Surya. He came and had sex with her. She gave birth to Karna. As Surya was not married /husband of kunti he was called so. The other sons too were produced with different men, hence all called by her name.
Nothing like respect to mother. Parshuram beheaded his mother, Yudhi while going to gambling, kicked his mother who had caught his feet in a bid to stop him from gambling.
Mahabharat says that Yudhi put everybody on the stake of gambling except male Brahmans and their properties. "Everybody" included his mother, wife sisters daughters and even brahman women. 
Respect for women!! My foot!!
If anybody desires references, I shall provide.
 

On Sun, Sep 13, 2020 at 6:51 PM Xavier William varekatx@gmail.com [dalit_edu] <dalit_edu@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

"CAN WE RETURN TO THIS SYSTEM (Dharma)  TO BRING BACK DISCIPLINE AND CIVILIZATION VALUES TO THE WORLD" If and when we return to your system we will have men gambling of their homes and wives as the Kauravas did and then we will have the biggest war ever known to man in which out of millions of soldiers only eighteen came back alive.

On Sun, 13 Sep 2020 at 14:09, Deva Sarran Samaroo devasamaroo@hotmail.com [TheBecoming] <TheBecoming@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

CAN WE RETURN TO THIS SYSTEM  TO BRING BACK DISCIPLINE AND CIVILIZATION VALUES TO THE WORLD

HINDUS SYSTEM OF RESPECT AND RECOGNITION OF TRADITION CUSTOM AND VALUES = HOW THE LORD WERE CALLED

Our Gods were recognized by the names of their wife's.

Sita var - Lord Rama,

Uma Pati - Lord Shiva,

 Lakshmi Pati - Vishnu,

Saraswati Pati- Lord Brahma

In historic and macro context the clash is just one:

COMPARING WITH OTHERS
Patriarchal Abrahmic Monotheism vs. Matriarchal and polytheistic Sanathana

Hindus are worshipers of the Hiranya Garbha, the WOMB, the UTERUS, the AADI SHAKTI, the "MOTHER" of this UNIVERSE:

PLEASE SEE BELOW UNDERSTAND OUR CUSTOM TRADITION AND VALUES IN PRACTICES:

LOOK BELOW SON'S NAME CALLED BY MOTHER'S NAME:

WE HAVE LOST THE PATH WAY OF RELIGIOUS COMMUNITY NATION AND WORLD VALUES.

LOST IN MATERIALISM AND PERSONAL EGO: " I AM" TAT TVAM ASMI"



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[www.keralites.net] World Happiness Report

 

The World Happiness Report is an annual publication of the United Nations Sustainable Development Solutions Network. It contains articles, and rankings of national happiness based on respondent ratings of their own lives,[1] which the report also correlates with various life factors. As of March 2020, Finland was ranked the happiest country in the world three times in a row. 155 countries are ranked based on factors such as real GDP per capita, social support, healthy life expectancy, freedom to make life choices, generosity, and perceptions of corruption. India with its heritage and philosophy ranks 140 among the 155 countries. This indexing started in 2012 and we are sinking lower every year in the ranking.. Pakistan is far better than us with a rank of 67. In fact most Muslim nations rank higher than we do. The only countries which rank lower than India are 141 Liberia, 142 Comoros, 143 Madagascar, 44 Lesotho, 145 Burundi, 146 Zimbabwe, 147 Haiti, 148 Botswana, , 149 Syria, 150 Malawi,151 Yemen, 152 Rwanda, 153 Tanzania,154 Afghanistan,155 Central African Republic

So Sangis, Go on boasting and bragging about your glorious heritage. At position 140 in the index there are 15 more ranks for you to sink.
I

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[www.keralites.net] Re: [TheBecoming] SANATHANA VEDIC DHARMA RICH HERITAGE CULTURE TRADITIONS AND VALUES

 

"CAN WE RETURN TO THIS SYSTEM (Dharma)  TO BRING BACK DISCIPLINE AND CIVILIZATION VALUES TO THE WORLD" If and when we return to your system we will have men gambling of their homes and wives as the Kauravas did and then we will have the biggest war ever known to man in which out of millions of soldiers only eighteen came back alive.

On Sun, 13 Sep 2020 at 14:09, Deva Sarran Samaroo devasamaroo@hotmail.com [TheBecoming] <TheBecoming@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

CAN WE RETURN TO THIS SYSTEM  TO BRING BACK DISCIPLINE AND CIVILIZATION VALUES TO THE WORLD

HINDUS SYSTEM OF RESPECT AND RECOGNITION OF TRADITION CUSTOM AND VALUES = HOW THE LORD WERE CALLED

Our Gods were recognized by the names of their wife's.

Sita var - Lord Rama,

Uma Pati - Lord Shiva,

 Lakshmi Pati - Vishnu,

Saraswati Pati- Lord Brahma

In historic and macro context the clash is just one:

COMPARING WITH OTHERS
Patriarchal Abrahmic Monotheism vs. Matriarchal and polytheistic Sanathana

Hindus are worshipers of the Hiranya Garbha, the WOMB, the UTERUS, the AADI SHAKTI, the "MOTHER" of this UNIVERSE:

PLEASE SEE BELOW UNDERSTAND OUR CUSTOM TRADITION AND VALUES IN PRACTICES:

LOOK BELOW SON'S NAME CALLED BY MOTHER'S NAME:

WE HAVE LOST THE PATH WAY OF RELIGIOUS COMMUNITY NATION AND WORLD VALUES.

LOST IN MATERIALISM AND PERSONAL EGO: " I AM" TAT TVAM ASMI"



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[www.keralites.net] Re: [aryayouthgroup] The laws of nature

 

 What I said is that the will of the people will win. I do not know what the Kashmiri will is. I also said that as long as they do not resort to peaceful methods, world will not support them and that too is going be a critical factor in the globalised world.. In fact by resorting to violence and terrorism they are acting against their own best of interests.

On Sun, 13 Sep 2020 at 11:20, sanjeev kulkarni jeevkulkarni@yahoo.com [aryayouthgroup] <aryayouthgroup@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

It seems you do not know what the Kashmiris want.  They are not
happy to get equal rights that are given to citizens of India..
They want the right to deny any rights to non-Muslims.  They want
shariah law. They are not happy Muslims are treated at par with
every other citizen.  It is not their ideal state if you know 
what are the principles of Caliphate.  They do not want others
to practice their religions..  They want only Islam to be followed.
If these are their principles and mentality due to madarsa education
and believe allah will give them rewards for slaughtering non-Muslims,
they deserve to remain losers for the whole of their life.  It is not for
nothing Europeans who welcomed them initially are now throwing them
out and deliberately provoking and insulting Islam.  Why this hatred
is created in the minds of non-muslims wherever they go?  Why there
are no anti-Hindu, anti-Parsee, Anti-Buddhist riots in Europe or
Buddha cartoons? Stop sympathising with regressive forces like Kashmiris.
They are bound to ruin themselves.

SANJEEV


On Sunday, 13 September, 2020, 10:53:02 am IST, Xavier William varekatx@gmail.com [aryayouthgroup] <aryayouthgroup@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 

In the past political aims were attained by violence. But the days of violence are over. Now political aims are attained by world public opinion.
Thus India got its independence with non-violence and world public opinion. Similarly South Africa got rid of apartheid by a nonviolent struggle backed up by public opinion..
Kashmir would have had far more success if they had resorted to peaceful methods along the lines of Gandhi and Mandela which would have embarrassed the Indian government. By resorting to violence they have forfeited any chance of success in their struggle.
Khalistanis also resorted to violence which destroyed any chance of their success. What is more, I doubt whether the Khalistanis have the kind of ground support that the Kashmiri militants have.
Situations will last if they are win-win situations. But in Kashmir no one wins. Instead there both India and Pakistan spend enormous sums of resources which could have been put to the benefit of the people. The only ones who benefit from the situation are the arms manufacturers of the world and their agents in India. But the biggest losers in the struggle are the people of Kashmir generations of whom are entangled in this senseless struggle.

On Sun, 13 Sep 2020 at 09:58, sanjeev kulkarni jeevkulkarni@yahoo.com [aryayouthgroup] <aryayouthgroup@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

Chanakya also said "don't bother about the discontent of the people
only ensure that they do not get a leader".  

We only need to cut off the supply lines of these movements.  It will
die down.  Once the government decided enough is enough of political 
exploitation of Khalistan movement, it took only a few operations to
make this movement and its brave lions vanish without a trace.  You
must also take into account sentiments of larger sections of society
against these fringe groups.  Whatever your social theories, they will
shatter on the hard surface of reality and iron will of the majority
community.  

SANJEEV


On Sunday, 13 September, 2020, 06:28:17 am IST, Xavier William varekatx@gmail.com [aryayouthgroup] <aryayouthgroup@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 

In his classical work 'the Prince' Machiavelli has stated clearly that the power of a prince depends upon the love of the people. Long before him there was Chanakya and I think he has also said much the same thing.
The laws of physics and chemistry can be proved by physical measurement. In contrast the laws of the social sciences cannot be proved by physical measurements. For instance the law of supply and demand cannot be proved by measurements. Nonetheless it is there. Similarly in politics the will of the people though not very apparent does persist and win. In contrast political theories like integrity of nations were trumped up by powermongers to serve their interests and are doomed to give way to the will of the people. Remember there were political theories like the divine right of kings which were held as potent theories in the past. Now if anyone were to propose such theories he would be confined to the mad house. In politics the greatest force depends on the welfare of the people and it will win in the end over armies and guns and French fighter planes.

On Sat, 12 Sep 2020 at 23:41, sanjeev kulkarni jeevkulkarni@yahoo.com [aryayouthgroup] <aryayouthgroup@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

There is no such law of nature as stated by you. Period!

SANJEEV


On Saturday, 12 September, 2020, 03:00:37 pm IST, Xavier William varekatx@gmail.com [aryayouthgroup] <aryayouthgroup@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 

Sanjeev,
It is not a matter of a billion people like it or not, it is a law of nature that the will of the Kashmiri people will be implemented in Kashmir, that of the Punjabis in Punjab, that of the Tamils in TN and so on. It is not a matter of if the will of the people will be implemented but when it will be implemented. What is more if and when a state becomes independent one or more of its districts may seek their own independence. In the future smaller countries have a better chance of success than big countries especially in places like India and China where diversity to complex to manage easily. In contrast in countries like the US there is homogeneity and states enjoy far more autonomy for the states than we have and so it may not be necessary for them to decentralize further or go in for independent states.

On Sat, 12 Sep 2020 at 14:13, sanjeev kulkarni jeevkulkarni@yahoo.com [aryayouthgroup] <aryayouthgroup@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

First thing, as per the constitution and its provisions power is very much decentralized to the village level. There are enough checks and balances to ensure the rights of individual guaranteed by the constitution are not infringed.  You have an independent legal system with provisions of appeal to higher authorities if you are not satisfied with the judgement given.

 

Purpose of any law is to ensure welfare, survival and prosperity of the majority of people.  If any fringe group starts advocating separate rights at the cost of the welfare of general society and national

integrity/sovereignty, they are curbed. No rights are absolute.  Your rights and obligations towards society are balanced.  You have freedom of expression. But if you shout fire in the crowded theatre with an intention to cause a stampede, it will attract punishment due to mala fide intentions..... You have freedom of movement as long as you are not a criminal.

Or it it taken away and you are put behind the bars.  

 

Kashmir 'solution' will result in bloodbath competing with nuclear holocaust.  When Gandhi was leading Hindus, four million people died during partition of India.  You can imagine what will happen today.  

 

Also, Kashmir and Khalistan movement is not about human rights.  In fact proponents of these movements want to deny any rights to non-members of their small groups. They are not happy that they get all the rights as given to all citizens to India. They want the right to deny any such rights to others. Their aim is to create a very regressive state based on their narrow brand of religion.

 

So live with it.  No one is going to get separate Kashmir or Khalistan. And any secessionist movement will be crushed with an iron fist.  Basically they are financed by foreign agencies and enemies of India.  Let us not waste our time in giving fig leaf of justification to these groups.

And do not have any delusions that such groups can defeat over a billion people or a strong state based on legitimacy.... It is like hoping one day ISIS will create Islamic caliphate all over the world based on Shariah denying no rights to non-Muslims and women. 

 

SANJEEV


On Saturday, 12 September, 2020, 08:41:46 am IST, Xavier William varekatx@gmail.com [aryayouthgroup] <aryayouthgroup@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 

Nature is governed by certain laws  such as the laws of Physics, Chemistry, Biology etc which are immutable..
Then there are laws of economics such as the Malthusian doctrine and the law of supply and demand..... These are also immutable. Many governments have tried to act against these laws and failed miserably. Sugar control, prohibition etc are actions by governments against the laws of economics and all these have failed.
Then there are the laws of politics and the most important of these laws is that the will of the people will prevail in the end. Many kings and governments have tried incessantly to restrain the power of the people and failed miserably. People want to be independent and at the time they have to cooperate with others for their own good. Though these forces of independence and the forces of cooperation oppose each other some balance is inevitable for our own good. Elemental power lies with the individual. But in a true democracy the individual delegates his power to higher bodies such as the Panchayath and the state for his own good. However modern democracies have inherited power from the kings and emperors of old where power was concentrated  with the king or emperor.
In India we inherited power from the British and this too is too centralised. At the time of independence this may have been inevitable. But now it is high time we decentralized power to the lowest level. However power mongers are reluctant to let go of their power and so we have conflict of power between the people and states as well as with the centre. The political struggle in Kashmir and elsewhere are part of this struggle between the people and the govt. But in politics the will of the people is far more potent than any government or its armies and it is a matter of time before the will of the people establishes itself. This is a law as immutable as the laws of gravity.
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