THIS issue of love jihad and religious conversion shall be discussed,if there is determined political move. If not it is political trade.1. No love marriage shall give a change in the religious status of the WOMEN and no name change will be allowed. If any change takes place she will be losing her voter ID and Adhar benefits. Her religious status will continue under the religion she is born, since religion is birth oriented.2. Children born in any family will continue to be counted under the religion of WOMEN and not men.3. There shall be no bar for any men or women coming into the temples or mosques or churches or any other religious institutions.4. Hindus shall refine themselves by coming out of the caste system at least before the gods and any prohibition or caste oppressive practices, inter-caste marriages shall be punished by criminal prosecution and even the police will be treated as abettors if they try to impose casteist ideas.5. let all organisations like Bhramins, Vysya , Kshatriyas all caste and subcaste organisations do declare that they are not allowing or supporting any caste oppressive ideas . Publically they shall speak or they are criminals number one.KRISHNAMURTHYUSAOn Sat, Jun 27, 2020 at 10:50 AM Narayanan Ramachandran nnr_rama@yahoo.com [Keralites] <Keralites@yahoogroups.com> wrote:ShreedharanSo obviously there is no difference between you two.Please behave like an educated and civilised person.No question of guts here. It is a matter of decency.Thank youRamachandran N NOn Saturday, June 27, 2020, 03:56:54 PM GMT+5:30, RAJESH SHREEDHARAN rajesh.shreedharan@gmail.com [Keralites] <keralites@yahoogroups.com> wrote:Mr...Let any God have sex with anybody but the way u r not able to come out of these topics...your favourite pass time is to abuse others and nothing else....daily people open this group with a hope to read some good article but end up with ur puranaas...if u abuse others naturally u will get it back.. ur common words are Patti (dog), rabies...for others.....and assuming that others who are writing against u r sanghis...On Sat, 27 Jun 2020, 09:19 Xavier William varekatx@gmail.com [Keralites], <Keralites@yahoogroups.com> wrote:Rajesh,Shiva had Sex with Vishnu (Mohini) and Ayyappa was born. There is no use in abusing me if you do not know your own myths.On Fri, 26 Jun 2020 at 20:12, RAJESH SHREEDHARAN rajesh.shreedharan@gmail.com [Keralites] <Keralites@yahoogroups.com> wrote:Bastard Xavier..What do you mean by Shiva screwed...don't test our patience.On Fri, 26 Jun 2020, 13:49 Xavier William varekatx@gmail.com [Keralites], <Keralites@yahoogroups.com> wrote:Anand Sharma,You deserve a Nobel for predicting so far into the future.Muslims are in conflict with each other as much as they are in conflict with others. So what use is it to them to increase their numbers when those numbers are in conflict with each other?Anyway, Sharma, can you provide even a shred of evidence to prove that Muslims are marrying non Muslims in a big way or that all of them are polygamous. I was in the Gulf and I found that not even 5% of them practice polygamy. So can you shut up this nonsense and discuss something worthwhile. First ask why Krishna married 16008 women and why Dasarath married 3 and why Panchali married 5 men and then most of those Pandavas married at will and why Manu screwed his own daughter and granddaughter and why Shiva screwed Vishnu and why...On Thu, 25 Jun 2020 at 20:35, Anand Sharma aksharma1857@hotmail.com [TheBecoming] <TheBecoming@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Dear friends,
A clarification about calling 1 billion Hindus dumb. This relates only to their not understanding of how the Muslims are wiping them out without firing a shot by allowing "Polygamy for Muslims only", 73 years after our independence and the 6 years of BJP/NAMO.
Apologize because I did not make the context clear.
I know, in general, they are the most intelligent people, landing a rocket on Mars in the very first try, which even US and Russia could not do.
Here is how polygamy wipes out everyone else with time. You see many of the Islamic countries, starting out with a bare majority, become almost 100% Islamic with time.
God has produced one man to one woman. A Muslim can get extra wives in following ways.
- He marries non-Muslims, mostly Hindus in India. 100% of the children and almost all of the women get converted to Islam.
- He marries 4 Muslim girls. He has just created an artificial shortage of Muslim women. 3 Muslim boys would not find Muslim women, they will marry others with the same result.
- He marries a mix of Muslims and non-Muslims. Net result is the same because of the above 2 reasons.
I met Lal Krishna Advani Ji personally in early 90's. He assured us that they will ban polygamy as soon as they come into power. Here is a picture with him with my wife to his right, my son at his feet, the other son is in corner against the wall and me hidden by tall man in the front.
Thanks and regards,
Anand Sharma
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Thanks and regards,
Anand Sharma
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Subject: Re: [TheBecoming] MORE THEN A BILLION HINDUUS CONVERTED TO ISLAM AND CHRISTIANITY ALL OVER THE WORLD.Forgot to mention in my previous comment that all 30 countries of Europe have banned polygamy as well.
Thanks and regards,
Anand Sharma
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Subject: RE: [TheBecoming] MORE THEN A BILLION HINDUUS CONVERTED TO ISLAM AND CHRISTIANITY ALL OVER THE WORLD.I am resending my comment:
Unfortunately Hindu's are good armchair talkers and do not have social consciousness.
Look at the sins they commit under their cast systems. Even children are abused to such a scale creating the terrain for the so called barbaric religions for conversion.
If not for the British, wives being thrown into the pyre of the dead bodies of the husbands would not have ended even now. Taxation system of the upper class Brahmins on the poor under class women to cover their tops was another curse that drove Hindus to change religion.
A struggle must start within Hindus to end their own foolishness without living in the glories of false and hyped godly values.
I am writing as disgruntled Hindu.
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I am totally shocked. How can 1 billion Hindus still left be so dumb or I am dumb? All of you, shall see on this thread too, no one will pay any attention to my post and very soon it will be relegated to a dump heap to be replaced by many exotic philosophical discussions which are OK to have but the practical, time dependent, actions are more critical need.
First, all of Hindus must realize that they have an existential threat, not to its present generation but in the immediate next generations. When their numbers approach or exceed 50%, they will start very violent war to convert the whole of India into Islam with a level of violence, similar to, but dozens of times worse than in 1947. Millions of our flower like innocent children will be slaughtered/raped/looted. All 60+ Islamic countries and 117 Christian countries may be fighting amongst themselves but will, very cunningly, join against our children to finish them off. All because the present generation is too busy enjoying their lives, having fun and does not care.
Now, as a start, there are some very simple, very fair things we can do to protect ourselves. It will take too long to explain but if anyone has any doubt, I shall be happy to explain. Our politicians know all this very well but deliberately look the other way, for selfish, vote bank politics, sadly supported by the most apathetic people, otherwise known as Hindus, in this world and history.
These 3 minimum, fair steps are urgently needed.
- Ban "Polygamy for Muslims only". The whole civilized world has done it, a partial list includes USA, Canada, all 12 countries of South America, Russia, China, Japan, Myanmar, Australia, even Nepal and Mauritius, the only 2 other Hindu majority countries.
- Democratically control their artificially large, very politically motivated families.
- To supplement religious liberty law, implement a religious responsibility law as well. Prohibit the foreign religions from spreading blind hatred against others, mainly Hindus in India, in very cleverly coded, subliminal teachings in their religious places. Examples, all others are Kafirs, we are all born sinners and the only way out is through Jesus Christ etc.
Thanks and regards,
Anand Sharma
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From: shaluneha@yahoo.ca; Sent: June 16, 2020 4:30 AM
NamasteI just read that a billion Hinduus have converted.
I have a case near my house in Delhi. A girl Radhika is still with her parents but want to marry a Muslim boy. She already does Namaz.. Her parents want help but they don't want to lose her, she is their only child. How do you think we can help
WE HAVE MORE THEN A BILLION HINDUUS CONVERTED TO ISLAM AND CHRISTIANITY ALL OVER THE WORLD.
Bhaarat has still many jai Chands who want to break up Bhaarat and destroy Hinduus and Bhaarat. Disgrace of Hinduu Leaders: How Hindus being converted to Islam and Christianity in so called independent Hindusthan is a disgrace on all Hindu leaders and Majority Hindus [?] who are living with no self-respect or dignity.
Present partitioned India cannot be 80% Hindu and 20% Muslim for long. Either it will be 100% Hindu or 100% Muslim in few years. This is for all Hindus to take this challenge in Hands to make India 100% Hindu [Hindu, Sikh, Jain, Buddhist] and it can be done so work for it otherwise there is no tomorrow for Hindus having seen what happened with them in present Pakistan and Bangladesh. Now Hindus existence in imminent danger under secularism.
On Sunday, August 20, 2017, Shriharsha Sharma <drshsharma@gmail.com> ;
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WE HAVE MORE THEN A BILLION HINDU CONVERTED TO ISLAM AND CHRISTIANITY ALL OVER THE WORLD. NO INTELLECTUAL EVER TALKS HOW TO LIBRATE THEM.
Liberal Hinduus turn a blind eye to Love Jihad, frauds and other methods/ used by Semitic religions for conversion of Hinduus
Love jihad is a reality but the liberals refuse to accept it. Blinkered vision.
http://files...constantcontact.com/7358f2b0601/9f8b3a7a-0044-4789-a819-a5470395bca6.pdf
The entire liberal establishment is aghast that the Supreme Court has not dismissed the phenomenon called 'love jihad' or rubbished it as a figment of the imagination of 'communal' politicians and intellectuals.
From Shekhar Gupta and other editorialists to legal luminaries Kapil Sibal and Indira Jaising, everybody is worried about religious freedom. And yes, Asaduddin Owaisi, that champion of secularism and liberty, is also upset. The apex court has ordered a probe into such a case by the National Investigation Agency (NIA), saying that it did not appear to be an isolated instance.
The court wants the NIA to look into the marriage of Shafin Jahan and Akhila Asokan. A retired SC judge R.V.. Raveendran would supervise the investigation. The idea is to find out the truth about indoctrination, conversion to Islam, etc. Shafin claims that Akhila embraced Islam, took the name of Hadija and married him. The Kerala High Court had annulled the marriage of Akhila suspecting it to be a case of love jihad.
It seems that the nonexistence of love jihad has been an article of faith from our intellectuals
As things stand, a competent Central Agency under an SC judge is probing into the matter. But our great intellectuals have already announced their judgment: the top court has erred. An editorial in The Indian Express (August 19) asserted that the apex court unnecessarily "chose to bring in the NIA to probe whether there is a larger, dubious pattern in conversions of Hindu women to Islam. Why was it moved to do so remains unclear, and invites suspicions of judicial over reach." In other words, there is no such pattern: love jihad simply doesn't exist.
I showed earlier, in January 2015, that intellectuals were, and are, just in the 'denial mode'. "Former Kerala chief minister V.S. Achuthanandan said in July 2010 that Muslim fundamentalists in the state were trying to increase their clout by encouraging conversions.' They also persuade them [Muslim youth] to marry Hindu girls.'
A leader of the Communist Party of India (Marxist), Achuthanandan is ipso facto 'secular.' A few months earlier, the Kerala High Court had found indications of 'forceful' religious conversions under the garb of 'love' in the state and asked the government to consider enacting a law to prohibit such 'deceptive' acts, Police say the girl, a Hindu, was "influenced" into converting to Islam while working at a private firm in Perinthalmanna, Malappuram district, the magazine reported. "Officials say P. Noufal (now in Yemen) of Perinthalmanna was her initial handler before Naser, a member of Sathya Sarani's Da'wa squad (wandering proselytisers), took over. 'Noufal led her to believe that heaven was possible only if she lived like a true Muslim and fought for Islam,' says A........R. Ajithkumar, IGP, Thrissur range."
There is a mountain of evidence suggesting that love jihad is a reality, but liberals are not just blind to it; they have blindfolded themselves
The magazine also mentioned about a report on the conversions prepared by the state's intelligence branch. The report revealed that between 2011 and 2015, 5,975 people in the state converted to Islam; 1,410 did so in 2015 alone. "An overwhelming number, 76 per cent, of the new converts are women below 35… In January- February this year, 224 Hindus and 60 Christians converted to Islam at a rate of roughly three new converts a day."
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Problem is due to Christianity and Islam
We Hindus have many Gods and Goddesses, and respect all others including Christian and Islam. The problem is Christianity and Islam. Christianity teaches, "Your god is no god, only my god is god. All Christians go to Heaven, no matter how evil. All others go to Hell, no matter how virtuous......." That is, Churches are telling all your Non-Christian ancestors have gone to Hell. Do you agree?
Problem is Churches inspired Christians are going around villages and trying to convert by any means - fair or foul.
Here is the Evil doctrine:
John 14:6 I am the only way.
Acts 4:12 There is no salvation in other religions.
John 3:16-18 Who does not believe in Jesus is condemned already.
Tilak
What is wrong with Christianity to call it animal culture? please read A. K. Priolker's book 'the Goa Inquisition" to get an answer. Earlier to Mother Theresa no one was taking the care of poor and destitute? And now also there are no such persons? And what was her main purpose in doing this? Was it not to convert them to Christianity? And what was the result of bringing in English education by McCauley under his educational policy? It increased illiteracy due to closing of Pathshalas by McCauley as only a few could learn and get educated at that time under his educational policy. And about intelligentsia, are you aware of Vedas which were compiled about four thousand or three thousand years B.C.?
vasant sardesai <vasant_sardesai@yahoo.co.in>: 2017-07-29
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Problems with Hinduus in spreading Sanatan Dharm
The problem is that our political leaders in government or in opposition do not accept the reality. They do not admit that Muslim invaders and rulers and Muslims in general have been committing unparalleled atrocities on Hindus since 712. They do not admit that Jinnah was right when he said that Hindus and Muslims cannot live in one country. When you do not define a problem honestly then how can you solve it. They are trying to fool the Hindus by saying -
1. Terrorism and terrorists have no religion.
2. Hindu - Muslim Bhaichara
3. Sarvadharm Sambhav
4. Ganga - Yamuni Sabhyata
5. Majhab nahi sikhata vair rakhna
6. Anekta men ekta.
7. Ghandhivaad.
Hindus are looking for an honest and strong leadership. They are anxious to follow such a leader. Valmiki Ramayan says - Shri Ram used to win over his subjects with truth,
From: K. C. Garg <kcg831@yahoo.com>; Thursday, June 11, 2020
sant samaj weather a part of badnam jihad or something else. by D K Dubey Sir
Premiered May 29, 2020
youtube.com/watch?v=lwXI3pVJ8Wg
Hinduus will have to be assertive
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Hindus are equally entitled for the right to say Kill
.Jihadi supremacists openly say that all non-Muslims in the world should be killed........
The prophet, the original jihadi mad animal, has openly and explicitly said that all non-Muslims should be killed in his teachings. That automatically gives Hindus the right to say all Muslims should be killed. Hindus are equally entitled to say all Muslims should be killed.
Why should this right to kill be one sided? Who gave them that right? How can an imaginary Allah give them the 'right' to kill other communities? Their 'right' to kill non-Muslims is also imaginary.
Therefore their imaginary Allah gave them imaginary right to kill non-Muslims.
Carl Sagan once said, 'extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence'. Christopher Hitchens said, 'what can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence'.
Why should a pedophile desert bandit have blasphemy laws? Who gave him the right to create blasphemy laws? An imaginary allah?
How long should Hindus sniff the shit in muslim's a**holes? Hindus have been doing that for 1000 years.
The Bhaaratiya government should draw a comprehensive list of Jihadi supremacists all over the world. A special task force to track and study the Jihadi supremacists should be created. The internet chat groups and chat rooms run by Muslims should be monitored by the government.From: Guhananda <bluemark22-flu@yahoo.com>; Sent: May 15, 2020
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Christian NGOs exist for only one agenda, to convert and increase their numbers and when they convert a young child, they have created a strong messenger to convert more of the natives. As Vivekananda says, "it is not just we lost a person, we gained an enemy", because they create animosity between families, communities and within country.
Great Plato (Pagan) of Greece, who followed the message of Bhagavad-Gita, spoke over 2,300 years ago, "Immoral behavior is the symptom of a diseased soul." * Remember, there was no sign of Jesus, Mohammad, Christianity, Islam when such great words of wisdom were spoken. The world had only one Dharm Science, One God with many attributes.
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Those vultures of our culture, do not realize, that Bharaat, Hindu, did not forcibly convert any human being, those vultures of humanity, came to our country fraudulently, invaded our country, and looted, when people of India were sleeping, after looting our country, they called us poor. !!
Only Looter, Lord Kilayu, filled 90 ships of wealth from India, and took to their hungry, so called civilized country.!!
We all know the history of Muslim Mogul looters.
Any change in Indian constitution can not save humanity as Islam and Christianity are conserved under article 29 which provide unlimited fundamental right to loot culprit culture followers. This article can't be amended or changes. Even there are more articles too which govern the loot and destruction of Bharaat by these two- animal cultures........
HINDUS MUST BE PROTECTED, IN THEIR OWN HOME HINDUSTAN, BY LAW, it is true that
present faulty constitution, was influenced, by vultures of Hindu culture, to continue their loo, dominate and divide Bharaat, that is why some fanatic, Muslims/ Christians participants, on this forum will not like to hear voice and truth of suffering Hinduus in Hindustan. !
Vande Mataram
"Real" Independence occurred since May 2014, the natives of Hindusthan are SECOND TO NONE on earth and are recovering the lost self-esteem, pride & dignity fast.
People BORN IN INDIA (Bhaarat) have the conviction that there is already much divinity & sanctity in the soil of Bhaarat. We don't have to follow FOREIGN religions from distant foreign lands FROM WHERE THE INVADERS & THE COLONISERS CAME. That only creates dangerous divisions in India as we saw thedivision of Bhaarat in UNFORGETABLE year 1947.
In that year those who followed the Prophet of Mecca considered themselves "SUPERIOR & SEPARATE", that is, "SECOND NATION", and decided to leave the tolerant, civilized, secular Hindusthan, slaughtering millions of INNOCENT citizens and taking away one third of Indian TERRITORY, too. The NATIVES of Bhaarat (whose prophets, gurus or avtaars were born in India) will consider the MUSLIMS fellow citizens only after that PARTITION is UNDONE.
No one ought to ignore ISLAMIC Pakistan and Bangla Desh even for a second (unless like Pandit's Nehru's view that "India is just dust and sand"!) and start "proselytising" directly or indirectly, among the NATIVE citizens who have ALL the spiritualty, morality and divinity from our own "prophets" ("avtaars") who were born in the blessed (intellectually & spiritually) "FERTILE" soil of Hindusthan- billions years old civilisation!
With all due respect I commend to you one of the religions that is NATIVE to the sacred soil of Bhaarat- in other words, "Ghar Wapsi".
From: Trishool <lalhgehi@yahoo.com>; Sent: Monday, August 14, 2017
हिंदुओं! मेवात दिखा रहा है तुम्हें आईना
इस देश के तथाकथित सनातनी हिंदू ने अभी अपनी परंपरागत नींद को त्यागा नहीं है । इसने सोते-सोते अफगानिस्तान , पाकिस्तान , बांग्लादेश , ईरान , इराक , अरब और कभी के जंबूद्वीप कहे जाने वाले आज के यूरेशिया के उन अनेक देशों , भौगोलिक स्थानों , भूखंडों को पानी के भाव बहा दिया जो कभी अखंड भारत वर्ष का या आर्यवर्त का एक भाग हुआ करते थे । हिन्दू की यह 'कुंभकर्णी नींद' आज भी टूटी नहीं है । आजादी मिलने के बाद बहुत सारे हिंदू धर्मनिरपेक्षता की भांग पीकर सो गए । देश के नेतृत्व ने उस समय देश की शासन व्यवस्था को चलाने के लिए जिस संविधान का निर्माण किया , उसी ने धर्मनिरपेक्षता को इस हिंदू राष्ट्र का जीवन आदर्श स्थापित करके हिन्दू के मरने का रास्ता प्रशस्त कर दिया और हिंदू ने उस पवित्र पुस्तक को अपनी 'गीता' मानकर पूजना आरंभ कर दिया । हिंदू के बारे में यह एक कुख्यात सत्य है कि यह पूजा में अंधा होकर उतरता है। जैसे मुसलमान अंधा होकर भक्ति करता है वैसे ही हिंदू भी अंधा होकर ही भक्ति करता है। यह नहीं देखता कि आगे गुरु खड़ा है या 'गुरु घंटाल' खड़ा है ? आगे दीवार खड़ी है या कि यह दीवार ईश्वर के निराकार स्वरूप को ही उसकी आंखों से ओझल कर रही है ? अपनी इसी परंपरागत भूल के परिणाम स्वरूप कश्मीर के विस्थापित पंडितों का दर्द हिन्दू ने अनुभव नहीं किया <span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:16pt;font-family:Mangal,ser
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