Saturday 4 July 2020

[www.keralites.net] Re: Re[2]: [TheBecoming] Re: [FHRS_USA] WHY INDIA BJP NDA NOT DECLARING INDIA AS A HINDU RASTRIYA

 

Why is Anand Sharma so worried about polygamy in Islam when there are so many problems in Hinduism such as bride burning and female infanticide.
Nepal was a Hindu nation for thousands of years and it is one of the poorest nations in the world. By making India also Hindu do yoou want to make India also as poor as Nepal.
Hinduism is a conglomerate of castes which is one of the most inhuman systems in the world and as bad as slavery or worse. Now Sanghis paint a rosy picture saying there was no caste in India but only varna. 
Sanghis also paint the picture that if Hindus are not careful Muslims will come to power and that they will persecute the Hindus.
Bali is a Hindu state within Indonesia which is predominantly Muslim. Yet there is more religious peace there in Muslim majority Indonesia than in India which has a  Hindu majority.
You are well ensconced in America which is predominantly Christian and use their facilities to promote your shit.
So Anand stop you rabid sanghi propaganda and learn to live in peace with others instead of trying to make others as rabid as you are.

On Sun, 5 Jul 2020 at 05:12, Anand Sharma aksharma1857@hotmail.com [TheBecoming] <TheBecoming@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

K.C.GARG JI.

VERY SHOCKING AND TROUBLING THAT YOU DID NOT UNDERSTAND VERY SIMPLE MATHEMATICS AND PUT FORWARD IDEAS DAMAGING TO OUR NATION. THE FUTURE IS EXTREMELY DARK FOR THE SANATAN DHARM BECAUSE MOST OF THE HINDUS ARE LIKE THAT AND HAVE NO TROUBLE AND IT DOES NOT BOTHER THEIR CONSCIENCE TO OFFER MILLIONS OF PIOUS HINDU GIRLS TO MUSLIMS ON A SILVER PLATTER AS SECOND OR THIRD WIVES COOKING HALAL MEAT IN BURQA IN SWELTERING HEAT PRODUCING DOZEN OR MORE MUSLIM CHILDREN EACH.

IT IS LIKE MANAGER OF A BANK DECLARING THAT A CERTAIN GROUP OF CUSTOMERS CAN LOOT THE BANK AND THEN CONVINCING CONCERNED CUSTOMERS NOT TO WORRY BECAUSE HE IS SEEING ONLY A SMALL LOOT (THOUGH ACTUAL LOOT IS HIGHER).

STARTING FROM ZERO 1400 YEARS AGO, MUSLIMS HAVE ESTABLISHED 60 FUNDAMENTALIST COUNTRIES AND ARE ADDING MORE REGULARLY.

SANATAN DHARM IS LOSING IT ALL AND GOING IN OPPOSITE DIRECTION. LOST ONE THIRD OF THE THOUSANDS OF YEARS OLD INDIA IN 1947, INCLUDING 1/3RD OF KASHMIR THAT GOT CONVERTED TO ISLAMIC PAKISTAN WITH HORRIFIC VIOLENCE. 

BECAUSE OF THIS CARELESS ATTITUDE, OUR NEXT GENERATIONS ARE GOING TO SUFFER CATASTROPHIC DISASTER.. MILLIONS OF OUR CHILDREN AND GRANDCHILDREN WILL BE SLAUGHTERED AND RAPED WITH LEVELS OF VIOLENCE DOZENS OF TIMES WORSE THAN IN 1947 AS THEIR NUMBERS APPROACH OR EXCEED 50% AND THEY TRY TO CONVERT WHOLE OF INDIA TO ISLAM. THEY ARE SHAMELESS, BLLOD THIRSTY PEOPLE AND HUMAN LIFE MEANS NOTHING TO THEM.  

REMEMBER, BESIDES THE TINY NEPAL AND MAURITIUS, THE REMAINING INDIA IS THE ONLY PLACE WHERE HINDUS ARE STILL IN MAJORITY. WITH THESE TYPES OF CARELESS ATTITUDES, HINDUS WILL BE MINORITY EVERYWHERE IN THE WORLD AND WILL BE KICKED AROUND LIKE A FOOTBALL EVENTUALLY BEING DECIMATED AND ABSORBED IN FUNDAMENTALIST RELIGIONS.

USE COMMON SENSE AND TRUST MATHEMATICS, NOT MEDIA. IT IS GREAT FUN AND VERY PROFITABLE FOR MUSLIMS TO HUNT HINDU WOMEN IN INDIA BECAUSE THERE IS NO REPURCUSSION. YOU ONLY HEAR A FEW CASES, THERE ARE TONS OF CASES ALL OVER INDIA THAT YOU DO NOT HEAR ABOUT. MANY TIMES, HINDU PARENTS HAVE NO MONEY FOR DOWRY FOR THEIR DAUGHTERS AND THEY ARE HAPPY WHEN AN OLD OR OLDER MUSLIM WITH FEW WIVES, OFFERS TO PAY THEM MONEY TO MARRY THEIR DAUGHTER.

WE HAVE TO ACT VERY FAST TO TAKE THIS VERY FAIR STEP AS WE ARE REACHING A POINT OF NO RETURN. THEY VOTE AS A BLOCK AND SOON, EVEN PEOPLE OF MODI JI'S CALIBER, WILL NOT BE ABLE TO COME TO POWER WITHOUT BOWING TO SHARIA. ALREADY, ALL PARTIES ARE BENDING BACKWARDS FOR THEM AND THERE ARE PLACES IN INDIA WHICH ARE NO GO ZONES BECAUSE OF THEIR MAJORITY THERE.

REMEMBER, ALL I AM SAYING IS FOR ALL CITIZENS TO BE TREATED EQUAL. HERE IS A PARTIAL LIST OF COUNTRIES THAT HAVE ABOLISHED POLYGAMY. USA,CANADA, ALL 12 COUNTRIES OF SOUTH AMERICA, ALL 30 COUNTRIES OF EUROPE, RUSSIA, CHINA, JAPAN, MYANMAR, AUSTRAIA, EVEN 2 TINY OTHER HINDU MAJORITY COUNTRIES,NEPAL AND MAURITIUS ETC.   

 THANKS AND REGARDS,
 ANAND SHARMA


From: K. C. Garg <kcg831@yahoo.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 4, 2020 2:56 AM
To: TheBecoming@yahoogroups.com <TheBecoming@yahoogroups.com>; Anand Sharma <aksharma1857@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Re[2]: [TheBecoming] Re: [FHRS_USA] WHY INDIA BJP NDA NOT DECLARING INDIA AS A HINDU RASTRIYA
 
What percentage of Muslims get/can get a non Muslim wife? Very few. Some non Muslims also get a Muslim wife. In practice what percentage is the difference. Negligible.


 

On Saturday, July 4, 2020, 12:44:19 PM GMT+5:30, Anand Sharma aksharma1857@hotmail.com [TheBecoming] <thebecoming@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 

Replying to comment "Banning polygamy  will not  help".

Very simple mathematics - There is one woman to one man in nature, so extra wives come from non Muslims, directly or
indirectly , mainly from Hindus in India and all children become Muslims. 
Directly - Extra wives are Hindus. 
Indirectly - He marries 4 Muslim women. He has just created artificial shortage of Muslim brides. 3 Muslim men will not find Muslim women and marry Hindus. 
Any other combination, same results because of 2 above. 

This is called चित्त भी मेरी, पट भी मेरी  or heads I
win, tales you lose. 

Thanks and regards,
Anand Sharma



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Friday, July 3, 2020, 10:02 PM -0500 from bishalshah@yahoo.com <bishalshah@yahoo.com>:
Who said there was no Hindu Nation? A few years back Nepal used to be the only Hindu Kingdom. India, especially the ruling Indian Congress with westerners tricked Nepali people using political thugs to abolish Hindu Nation Nepal.  


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On Friday, July 3, 2020, 08:30:14 PM EDT, 'K. C. Garg' kcg831@yahoo.com [TheBecoming] <thebecoming@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 

Banning polygamy will boost the morale of Muslim women.Other than that it won't help the country in any way. We need to control the population growth in the country, uniform civil code, close terrorist factories - the madarsas and quran, growth of Masjids at least. Only then Hindus can expect to survive.

 

On Friday, July 3, 2020, 06:19:18 PM GMT+5:30, vasant sardesai vasant_sardesai@yahoo.co.in [TheBecoming] <thebecoming@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 

Who says?

V. S. Sardesai

On Friday, 3 July, 2020, 2:53:00 pm IST, Aps Chauhan <apsc1937@icloud.com> wrote:


There was no Hindu nation or state . Why should this be declared such. Cite one example from history . You don't a civil war here do you ? If Netaji Subhash never  thought of this he was so right. 
Chauhan 

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On 02-Jul-2020, at 5:59 PM, 'vasant sardesai' via Patriots Forum <patriotsspeak@googlegroups.com> wrote:

It is the treachery of J, Nehru in allowing Muslims toay in independent India calling it secular when Pakistan was separated from India for Muslims.

V. S. Sardesai

On Thursday, 2 July, 2020, 8:13:34 am IST, Anand Sharma <aksharma1857@hotmail.com> wrote:


Suresh Ji,

Very eye-opening article, even though all of us feel a chill recounting all the horrors from Muslims over the centuries and counting. 

We have the toughest balancing act in human history. Muslims took away one third of our thousands of years old country with very horrific violence. Despite this, we have been very nice to them, allowing hundreds of millions of them to live with us and allow to expand through unfair practices.

Frankly, we are a lifeless dud. The only reason we got our independence after 800 years was because the second world war made Britain and France so weak that they could no longer hold on to their colonies. We copied British laws, constitution etc. line by line and the independent country of India was born.

The reason I am so bitter is that I have spent all my life, lot of time, energy and money, preaching that a simple, fair step should be taken like ban Polygamy to prevent unfair expansion of Muslims in India. I have been a member of the Overseas Friends of BJP USA since early 90's and its coordinator for my city. I am probably the only one, flying at my own expense all over US to its annual meetings and deliver keynote addresses on the subject. I met with Lal Krishna Advani Ji personally in 90's who promised us that they will ban polygamy as soon as they come to power.

The total results I have to show for my efforts is big Zero, yawns and ridicule.

My thought is that we have to be extremely alert and ban all their unfair practices, ban polygamy, control their politically motivated large families.

Declaring Hindu Rastriya is impractical and will cause many more problems than it will solve. 

Thanks and regards,
Anand Sharma 


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Subject: Re: [FHRS_USA] WHY INDIA BJP NDA NOT DECLARING INDIA AS A HINDU RASTRIYA
 
Below is a related short article about constitution (supreme or not):

jaya sri krishna!

sv

On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 1:37 AM Deva Sarran Samaroo <devasamaroo@hotmail.com> wrote:
Dear Prem Sablok

I disagree with your thoughts which is limited without determination. Al countries have constitution and that is a written concept. That concept can be changed as Russia is doing presently 

If other countries can change and amends their constitution why INDIA CANNOT?   

Do not confused between HINDU PRACTICES AND INDIA BECOMING A HINDU RASTRIYA BY CONSTITUTION 

Deva

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Subject: Re: [FHRS_USA] WHY INDIA BJP NDA NOT DECLARING INDIA AS A HINDU RASTRIYA
 
 

Governance of any country is based on the Constitution of that  country. BJP/NDA can not deviate from the Constitution of India. Amendment of the Constitution is not that easy. Even BJP manifesto no where says about Hindu Rashtra in Indai. Strengthening Hindu Dharma is a social subject and not a poltical subject in India. Before any social thought of Hindu Rashtra, we need to strengthen Hindu Dharma by reviving Vedas truthfully. In the absence of Vedas Hindus are getting divided into sub religions, sects, cults, gurudom and formimg close societies. I find there are many Hindus who are not keen to revive Vedas.then how do we form Hindu Rashra?
There should be something common for Hindu Rashra even as a social thought.
Our Constitution does not prohibit strngthening of any religion/Dharma but there is no move any where to strengthen Hindu Dharma and merge Hindu close societies in to one Hindu Dharma Open Society. Our Constituion does not prohibit merging of Hindu close societies into one Hindu Open Society. I do not know any Social Hindu Dharma group is pursuing this matter.. We need not bouther BJP/NDA being political parties on this subject. For them governance is for Citizens of India and not for any religion of India.
 
Regards
Prem Sabhlok




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Subject: Re: [FHRS_USA] WHY INDIA BJP NDA NOT DECLARING INDIA AS A HINDU RASTRIYA [1 Attachment]

 

 

The first thing is you have to publish your manifesto - What 
is your idea of a Hindu rashtra, what is the social contract
offered to all its constituents, who falls out of the definition
of Hindu etc.  People are afraid that if they opt for a Hindu 
rashtra, untouchables will get a raw deal.  So first you have
to clear all your positions including your political philosophy,
economic ideology, aims where you want to take the society etc.
 
SANJEEV
 
 
On Tuesday, 30 June, 2020, 10:49:04 pm IST, Deva Sarran Samaroo devasamaroo@hotmail.com [FHRS_USA] <fhrs_usa@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 
 
 

 


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DEAR HINDUS AND BJP NDA GOVERNMENT PLEASE READ BELOW WHAT ARE EE AFRAID OF DECLARING INDIA AS A HINDU RASTRIYA THE TIME IS NOW IF OTHERS CAN DO IT WHY CAN'T WE.
 
 

 




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