In logical thinking there is what is called falsifiability theory by Carl Popper. (See wikipedia for falsifiability)
In the philosophy of science, falsifiability or refutability is the capacity for a statement, theory or hypothesis to be contradicted by an event with parts that are separately technologically possible,[A] but which can be together impossible.[B] For example, the law "All swans are white" is falsifiable because "Here is a black swan" contradicts it and, even if there were no black swans, this contradiction would still make the law falsifiable, because observing that a bird is a swan and seeing that a bird is black would still be separately possible."
In contrast the statement there is a god can never be falsified and so is not acceptable from the scientific perspective. Sankaracharya talked about Dwaita and Adwaita and so on, assertions that can never be falsified. So such ideas are not acceptable from the logical point of view. Not only Sankaracharya but all ancient philosophers offered ideas which are merely high sounding words without any meaning.
Jesus talked all the time about hell. You can never prove that there is a hell or there is no hell. Such memes are not worth wasting your energy on discussing them.
Bertrand Russel gave an excellent example of falsifiability. Suppose I say that there is teacup orbiting in the Andromeda galaxy, you cannot prove it wrong or right. So that is inadmissible. It is the same with most of the ancient memes we discuss here such as nirankari, dharma, Eswar, god etc. It is better that discussions on non-falsifiable subjects which can neither be proved or disproved be left alone.
On Sat, 13 Jun 2020 at 17:37, shirish dave smdave1940@yahoo.com [TheBecoming] <TheBecoming@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
It is a very good strategy, adopted by Hindus just to choose a punch, to MK Gandhi too, as an opportunity, when a Muslim illogically alleged MK Gandhi a racist.
There are persons among Hindus, where Hindus have used to make their personal account (account of their intellectual property) to get settled, even it may help the radical Non-Hindus,
e.g. like the current Mayor of London or an Anti-Hindu Churchill did some loose talking. Let them be prejudicial and illiterate on India's true History, but we must be proud of them or at least support directly (Churchill) or indirectly (Mayor of London). Give a punch to MK Gandhi.
It appears this practice, some of (us), we Hindus had imported from Muslims and thereafter greatly from Western rulers viz. British who divided Hindus and made them selfish and self-oriented.
It was a great period of Shankaracharya, where the learned great people of India, used to talk and discuss with material and logic. Conclusion would be arrived at last. They were tolerant and ready to enhance their knowledge. They (learned people of India) also induced this character in others, i.e. to be tolerant and acceptable.
But thereafter Muslims and British changed the Indian character by virtue of their power of rule. They have induced their character among the slaves like Nehru and communists, to think hypothetical, to create fake hypothesis, to tell lies repeatedly and then remain always ignorant of opposite views.
Are we ignorant of MK Gandhi? Yes we are. But we do not want to accept it. Ok. Do not worry. We can collect some conclusions made by the enemies of MK Gandhi. Our main enemy is MK Gandhi. Churchill took MK Gandhi as his enemy. Therefore enemy of enemy becomes our friend. Not always. But when we want to derogate MK Gandhi we can quote this enemy's conclusive remark on Gandhi as a supportive evidence. (We have to forget, that no conclusive remark can be termed as evidence).
We can straight way term MK Gandhi as he used to favor Muslims. We need not submit material. We can also say that MK Gandhi had divided India. We must forget that he was not holding any power post anywhere since 1933. MK Gandhi said the division of India would be on my dead body. But we can ignore it. We can also ignore all the leaders of that time too, who had no option to avoid the division or to have patience to delay the independence (inclusive of HMS). (Gandhi has suggested to boycott Cabinet Mission). No body supported MK Gandhi, because we are so brave, and we can prove this at the cost of passing blame on MK Gandhi.
We can also say repeated lies. E.g. that MK Gandhi had not written a letter to the Viceroy, requesting him to cancel the capital punishment to Bhagat Singh. Even some body gives a proof, we would jump to other topic. After few months again we alleged MK Gandhi on the same topic.
Why are we Indians, acting in this prejudicial way and why do we want to maintain our hypocrisy?
It is not our fault. We are brought up by Nehruvians in this way since last 70 years besides British rule. We might have been impressed by somebody else, but our mindset have the tendency to follow our Master's (British and thereafter Congis) voice (way).
Are you against anybody? … Allege him first with some abuse. Then create false and fake narratives. QED.
Why the Lutyen Gang's learned hypocrites are successful in spreading violence against Hindus in India, and still able to prove Hindus are intolerant and guilty of violence?
My boys, Even Marks was not able understand the widely spread scientifically systemized common Indian way of life. Marks said British should rule India. CPIM failed, Nehru/Nehruvians failed, Naxalites failed, Maoist failed…... Now they are all combined and they have planned a joint venture in association with internal and cross border terrorists and antisocial to divide India intellectually and geographically.
You have to decide where you are?
MK Gandhi is an open book. You cannot degrade him. Off course you can satisfy yourself. Just like Muslim, British and Nerhu did. All failed. All combined will also be failed.
This is India at least having 15000 years old cultural civilization.
On Saturday, 13 June, 2020, 11:25:51 am IST, vinod karnik <vinodkarnik11@gmail.com> wrote:Dear Sirs,1. I agree with Dr Kumar, Mr B Thatte, Mr D V Samroo and R Singh Sir, and others ,who expressed and supported the view that we must make an issue about Mr M K Gandhi's love for Muslims.Regards.---- Major General V S Karnik(Retired)On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 10:16 AM Karam C Ramrakha <karamcramrakha@gmail.com> wrote:--WITH SOME TREPIDATION AND WITH A HEAVY HEART I AGREE MAHATMA GANDHI MUST BE CONSIGNED OT THE DUST BIM OF HISTORY EVEN EVEN IT MANS THROWING OUT THE BABY WITH THE BATH WATER...REASO :TO MILLION PLUS MURDERED DURING 1947 ONSLAUGHT BY MUMAMAD ALI "DIRECT ACTION" JINNAH... THESW TWO ARE RESPONINLE FOR TTHE BREAK UP OPF INDIA... JINNAH ADVOCATED VIOLENCE WITH HIS DIRECTIN ACTION DAY.... GANDHI NO LONGER A MAHATMA IN OUR EYES STOOD BY AND CONDONED MUSULMAN ATROCITIES.. AS FOR BRTTAIN ATLEE CHURCHIL STOO BY AND "ENJOYED" TO SEE iNDIANS BEING SLAUGHTERED.WHEN CHURCHIL WAS TOLD THAT HIS MAN MADE FAMINE" IN BENGLAS HAD KILLED 4.2 MILLION .. YES HE HAD DIVERTED SUPPLIES FOR BENGAL AND THUS FABIRCATED OR EXACERBATED THE FAMINE.. HE REJOICED AND SAID PITY GANDHI IS NOT ON THE LIST..NO TO TURN TO SAA-DICK KHAN.. HE IS VEXED THERE IS A STATURE OF GANSHI IN TRAFALGAR SQUARE.. WELL REMOVE IT MY SON...BUT DON'T FORGET WHEN TEH FILM GANDHI WAS A BIG BIG HIT .. YES GANSHI HAD SOME GOOD POINT.. THE SALT MARCH, THE CALL TO UNITE AGAINST THE GORALHS BY NON VIOLENCE NON COOPERATION AND SOME WHO WERE DETRACTORS OF GANSHI BROKE DOWN AND CREID SEVERAL TIMES WATCHNG THE FILM... NO LADIES AND GENTLEMEN HISTORY IS HISTORY.. IN HINDI HISTORY MEANS ITI-HASS .. AS IT WAS ...BUT NOW MR DICK KHAN WANTS A STATURE OF JINNAH.. LET ALL STATUES BE AS EXPLICIT AS THE ONES ON KAJURA HO ETC.. EROTIC PAINTINS, HOMOSECUAL SCENES , GROUP SEX,SO JINNAH SHOULD BE SHWON BROWN SUITED, CAIN SMOKING, WHISKY IN ONE HAND, HAM SANDWICH IN THE OTHERE EINCIDENTALLY GANSHI SHOULD BE DOWN WITH SOME NUBLIE YOUNG NAKES GIRST STARK NAKED HIMSELF WHI NEHRU SHOULD BE SHOULD BE SHOWN AS BOY AND GITLRL SHARING A CIGGY...SO MIFFEXD WERE THE MUSLIMS AT THE SUCCESS OF GANDHI FILM THAT THEY MADE ONE OF JINNAH WO ACTED AS JINAH BUT APPROPRIATELY CHRISTOPERH LEE THE MAN WHO PLAYS DRACULA.. THE FILM, WAS A FLOP BBUT A FILM OF JINNAH SHOULD WHO HIM AS DRCULA BIRINT INTO MOTHER INDIA...YES JINNAH DESTROPED INDIA AND HE FAILED TO CREAT A PAK THAT IS PURE ELNCLSOE HE DID NOT CREAT INTRA MOSLEM UNITY DID HE .. HE WANTED THE NEGALIS TO LEARN AND CHERRISH URDU AS ANATIONAL LAGUAGE..NO MR DICK KHAN JONNAH DID NOT READ THE ,KOROAN EITHERHE NEVER WENT TO A MOSQUE....INDIENTALLY WHEN BORIS JOHNON WAS TOLD THE MUSLIMS COULD TAKE OVER BRITAIN HE GLOATED AT THE IE3A AND SAID HEY THEY WILL BUILD TAJ MAHALS AND RED FORSTS.. SEE AHT THE LAKIS BUILT IN LA-WHORE.. THAT MAUSOLEUM IS A JOKE A SICK JOKE...YES LETS HAVE ASTUTE OF JINNAH IN LONDONA DN YOU HAVE TO LEAVE THERE A HAM SANDWICH AND WHISKY WHICH JINAH RESLISTED...HISTORY OF INDIA IS A SICK SICK JOKE.. A TRAGEDY AND AN INSULT TO US ALLKARAM C RAMRAKHAEX FIJI MP..Karam C RamrakhaLL.B. Syd Uni (1954)Putney Chambers36 Pellisier RoadPutney NSW 2112AustraliaPhone: 02 9808 2760Mob: 0434 986 123Email: karamcramrakha@gmail.comOn Sat, 13 Jun 2020 at 12:13, Kumar Arun <kumar2786@hotmail.com> wrote:--*Just Like Black-Americans Slavery Has Become An Issue, Hindus Must Make Gandhi's Love For Muslims An Issue*
GANDHI JI MAHAN (इतिहासिक तध्य)👎Makkar Gandhi
😕 Mahanta no.1 ...
शहीदे आजम भगतसिंह को
फांसी दिए जाने पर अहिंसा
के महान पुजारी गांधी ने कहा था....
😞''हमें ब्रिटेन के विनाश के
बदले अपनी आजादी नहीं
चाहिए।'' और आगे कहा.....
''भगतसिंह की पूजा से देश
को बहुत हानि हुई और हो
रही है । वहीं (फांसी) इसका
परिणाम गुंडागर्दी का पतन है
😒फांसी शीघ्र दे दी जाए
ताकि 30 मार्च से करांची में
होने वाले कांग्रेस अधिवेशन में
कोई बाधा न आवे ।"
🔥अर्थात् गांधी की परिभाषा
में किसी को फांसी देना हिंसा
नहीं थी ।
😕 Mahanta no.2 ....
इसी प्रकार एक ओर महान्
क्रान्तिकारी जतिनदास को
जब आगरा में अंग्रेजों ने
शहीद किया तो गांधी आगरा में ही थे और जब गांधी को
उनके पार्थिक शरीर पर माला
चढ़ाने को कहा गया तो
उन्होंने साफ इनकार कर दिया
😓अर्थात् उस नौजवान द्वारा
खुद को देश के लिए कुर्बान
करने पर भी गांधी के दिल में किसी प्रकार की दया और
सहानुभूति नहीं उपजी, ऐसे थे
हमारे अहिंसावादी गांधी ।
😕 Mahanta no.3 ...
जब सन् 1937 में कांग्रेस
अध्यक्ष के लिए नेताजी सुभाष और गांधी द्वारा
मनोनीत सीतारमैया के मध्य मुकाबला हुआ तो गांधी ने
कहा...
😙यदि रमैया चुनाव हार गया
तो वे राजनीति छोड़ देंगे
लेकिन उन्होंने अपने मरने
तक राजनीति नहीं छोड़ी जबकि रमैया चुनाव हार गए
थे।
😕 Mahanta no.4 ....
इसी प्रकार गांधी ने कहा था,
"पाकिस्तान उनकी लाश पर
बनेगा" लेकिन पाकिस्तान
उनके समर्थन से ही बना ।
ऐसे थे हमारे सत्यवादी गांधी ।
😕 Mahanta no.5 ...
इससे भी बढ़कर गांधी और
कांग्रेस ने दूसरे विश्वयुद्ध में
अंग्रेजों का समर्थन किया तो
फिर क्या लड़ाई में हिंसा थी
या लड्डू बंट रहे थे ?
पाठक स्वयं बतलाएं ?
😕 Mahanta no.6 ...
गांधी ने अपने जीवन में तीन
आन्दोलन (सत्याग्रह) चलाए
और तीनों को ही बीच में
वापिस ले लिया गया फिर भी
लोग कहते हैं कि आजादी
गांधी ने दिलवाई ।
😕 Mahanta no.7 ....
इससे भी बढ़कर जब देश के
महान सपूत उधमसिंह ने
इंग्लैण्ड में माईकल डायर को
मारा तो गांधी ने उन्हें पागल
कहा इसलिए नीरद चौधरी ने
गांधी को दुनियां का सबसे
बड़ा सफल पाखण्डी लिखा है
😕 Mahanta no.8 ....
इस आजादी के बारे में इतिहासकार CR मजूमदार
लिखते हैं "भारत की आजादी
का सेहरा गांधी के सिर बांधना
सच्चाई से मजाक होगा ।
😃यह कहना कि सत्याग्रह व चरखे से आजादी दिलाई बहुत बड़ी मूर्खता होगी।इसलिए गांधी को आजादी का 'हीरो' कहना उन क्रान्तिकारियों का
अपमान है जिन्होंने देश की
आजादी के लिए अपना खून बहाया ।"
😜यदि चरखों की आजादी की रक्षा सम्भव होती है तो बार्डर पर टैंकों की जगह चरखे क्यों नहीं रखवा दिए
जाते ...........??
🙏अगर आप सहमत है तो इसकी सच्चाई "शेयर " कर
देश के सामने उजागर करें ।
जय हिन्द
🙏शहीदे आज़म भगत सिंह को फांसी कि सजा सुनाई
जा चुकी थी , इसके कारण हुतात्मा चंद्रशेखर आज़ाद
काफी परेशान और चिंतित हो गए।
💂भगत सिंह की फांसी को रोकने के लिए आज़ाद ने ब्रिटिश सरकार पर दवाब
बनाने का फैसला लिया इसके
लिए आज़ाद ने गांधी से मिलने का वक्त माँगा लेकिन
गांधी ने कहा कि वो किसी भी
उग्रवादी से नहीं मिल सकते।
😢गांधी जानते थे कि अगर भगतसिंह और आज़ाद जैसे
क्रन्तिकारी और ज्यादा दिन
जीवित रह गए तो वो युवाओं
के हीरो बन जायेंगे। ऐसी स्थिति में गांधी को पूछनेवाला
कोई ना रहता।
🙏हमने आपको कई बार बताया है कि किस तरह गांधी
ने भगत सिंह को मरवाने के
लिए एक दिन पहले फांसी
दिलवाई।
😞खैर हम फिर से आज़ाद
कि व्याख्या पर आते है। गांधी से वक्त ना मिल पाने का बाद आज़ाद ने नेहरू से मिलने का फैसला लिया , 27 फरवरी 1931 के दिन आज़ाद ने नेहरू से
मुलाकात की। ठीक इसी दिन आज़ाद ने नेहरू के सामने भगत सिंह की फांसी को रोकने कि विनती की।
😢बैठक में आज़ाद ने पूरी
तैयारी के साथ भगत सिंह को
बचाने का सफल प्लान रख दिया। जिसे देखकर नेहरू
हक्का -बक्का रह गया क्यूंकि इस प्लान के तहत भगत सिंह
को आसानी से बचाया जा सकता था।
👉नेहरू ने आज़ाद को मदद देने से साफ़ मना कर दिया इस पर आज़ाद नाराज हो गए और नेहरू से जोरदार बहस
हो गई फिर आज़ाद नाराज होकर अपनी साइकिल पर सवार होकर अल्फ्रेड पार्क कि होकर निकल गए।
😢पार्क में कुछ देर बैठने के बाद ही आज़ाद को पोलिस ने
चारो तरफ से घेर लिया। पोलिस पूरी तैयारी के साथ आई थी जेसे उसे मालूम हो कि आज़ाद पार्क में ही मौजूद है।
😛आखरी साँस और आखरी गोली तक वो जाबांज अंग्रेजो के हाथ नहीं लगा ,आज़ाद की
पिस्तौल में जब तक गोलियाँ बाकि थी तब तक कोई अंग्रेज उनके करीब नहीं आ सका।
🇮🇳आखिरकार आज़ाद जीवन
भरा आज़ाद ही रहा और उस ने आज़ादी में ही वीर गति को प्राप्त किया।
💨अब अक्ल का अँधा भी समझ सकता है कि नेहरु के घर से बहस करके निकल कर
पार्क में १५ मिनट अंदर भारी
पोलिस बल आज़ाद को पकड़ने के लिए बिना नेहरू की गद्दारी के नहीं पहुँचा जा सकता था ।
😳नेहरू ने पोलिस को खबर दी कि आज़ाद इस वक्त पार्क में है और कुछ देर वहीं रुकने वाला है। साथ ही कहा कि
आज़ाद को जिन्दा पकड़ने कि भूल ना करें नहीं तो भगतसिंह
कि तरफ मामला बढ़ सकता है।
😰लेकिन फिर भी कांग्रेस कि सरकार ने नेहरू को किताबो में बच्चो का क्रन्तिकारी चाचा
नेहरू बना दिया और आज भी किताबो में आज़ाद
को "उग्रवादी" लिखा जाता है।
😡लेकिन आज सच को सामने लाकर उस जाँबाज को आखरी सलाम देना चाहते हो तो इस पोस्ट को शेयर करके सच्चाई को सभी के सामने लाने में मदद करें।
🙏आज के दिन यही शेयर करना उस निडर जांबाज और भारतमाता के शेर के लिए सच्ची श्रद्धांजलि हो सकती है.
Subject: गांधी की 5 सबसे भारी गलतियां
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohnCpWvK7os
कृष्ण कुमार गौतम
हाँ ये सच जरुर है की मदनमोहन मालवीय जी ने 14 फरवरी 1931 को लार्ड इरविन के सामने भगत सिंह की फांसी रोकने के लिए मर्सी पिटिशन फ़ाइल की थी ..लार्ड इरविन ने कहा की चूँकि आप कांग्रेस के अध्यक्ष है इसलिए आपको इस पिटिशन के साथ गाँधी जी नेहरु सहित कांग्रेस के कम से कम 20 सदस्यों का पत्र होना चाहिए ... लेकिन गाँधी और नेहरु ने भगत सिंह की मर्सी पिटिशन पर चुप्पी साध ली ...और अपनी सहमती नही दी ..
ब्रिटेन में रिटायर होने के बाद लार्ड इरविन ने लन्दन में कहा था यदि गाँधी या नेहरु एक बार भी भगत सिंह के फांसी पर अपील करते तो हम उनकी फांसी रद्द कर देते ..... लेकिन पता नही क्यों मुझे ऐसा महसूस हुआ की गाँधी जी और नेहरु को भगत सिंह को फांसी देने की अग्रेजो से भी ज्यादा जल्दी थी
फाँसी देने से पहले लाहौर जेल के जेलर ने गाँधी को पत्र लिखकर पुछा था अगर इन तीन लड़कों को फाँसी दी जाती है तो देश में कोई बवाल तो नहीं होगा। गाँधी ने उस पत्र का लिखित जवाब दिया के आप अपना कार्य करें कुछ नहीं होगा।
प्रो. कपिल कुमार की किताब से --गाँधी और लार्ड इरविन के बीच समझौता के समय इरविन इतना आश्चर्य में था की गाँधी और नेहरु दोनों में से किसी ने भी भगत सिंह राजगुरु और सुखदेव को छोड़ने की कोई चर्चा तक नही की । इरविन अपने दोस्तों से कहता था की हम ये मानकर चल रहे थे की गाँधी और नेहरु भगत सिंह की रिहाई के लिए अड़ जायेंगे और हम उनकी ये मांग मान लेते । भगत सिंह को ब्रिटेन के युवा भी चाहते थे ।
करांची अधिवेशन में गाँधी और नेहरु ने भगत सिंह के पिताजी को मंच पर बुलाकर कहलवाया था की युवाओ क्रांति का रास्ता मत चुनो । भगत सिंह के पिताजी इस आशा में नेहरु और गाँधी के झांसे में आ गये थे की ये दोनों रंगा बिल्ला की जोड़ी उनके पुत्र को मौत बचा लेगी
इसी वजह से मुझे गाँधी और नेहरु से बेहद नफरत है .. ये दोनों अग्रेजो के दलाल थे
कांग्रेसी थिंकटैंक आज फिर गच्चा खा गया, जैसे सोनिया गांधी ने गुजरात के इलेक्शन में नरेंद्र मोदी को मौत का सौदागर बतलाया था उसके बाद से कांग्रेस कभी भी नहीं जीती गुजरात में, चुनावी बरसात में मेंढको की टर टर भी चालू हो गयी है, लगता है टूरिस्ट वीसा पर, कांग्रेस का सिर्फ चुनाव प्रचार करने आयी प्रियंका गांधी को भी कांग्रेसी थिंकटैंक ने भाषण करने की गलत ट्रेनिंग दे दी, उन्हें प्रियंका गांधी का भाषण सही तरीके से लिखना चाहिए, प्रियंका गांधी को पता ही नहीं चला कि वह जो बोल रही है उससे मोदी जी को फायदा होगा या नुकसान, उसने अपने पहले भाषण में मोदी जी को यूपी से बाहर का आदमी बता दिया, जो की हास्यास्पद, निंदनीय तो है ही और कांग्रेस को इस पर शर्म आनी चाहिए, मैं स्वयं इस बयान की निंदा करता हूं की विदेशी सोनिया गाँधी और ब्रिटिश नागरिकता लिए हुआ राहुल गाँधी देसी, और भारत माता के बाकि सभी सपूत विदेशी, ये भारतीय संविधान का भी अपमान है, जिस भारत के यशस्वी प्रधानमंत्री ने पूरे विश्व में देश का मानसम्मान, इज्जत बड़ाई और जिसको देखकर पूरे विश्व में देश के पूर्व नागरिकों का ( जो मन से अभी भी भारतीय है) अपने भारतीय होने की अनुभूति पर जिनका सीना गर्व से चौड़ा हो जाता है, जिसे हम विश्व के सभी देशो में देख चुके है, जहा जहा माननीय प्रधानमंत्री मोदी जी गए, जहा अभी तक मोदी जी नहीं गए उन देशो में मोदी जी का समस्त भारतीय अप्रवासी पलकपावड़े बिछा कर इंतज़ार कर रहे है, अब प्रश्न यह है की क्या कांग्रेसी राज में हुए इतने सारे घोटालो का, अपने पति रोबर्ट वाड्रा का अपने सत्ता के रसूखों के जरिये रातो रात अरबोपति बन जाने का प्रियंका गाँधी वाड्रा को कुछ भी नहीं पता है, क्या उसे यह भी ज्ञान नहीं है कि कैसे कांग्रेसी राज में लुटियन जोन में कैबिनेट मिनिस्टर के बंगले में नाममात्र के लगभग फ्री बराबर किराये में रह रही थी, जहा देश में आधी से ज्यादा आबादी उनके राज में गरीबी रेखा से नीची व् अनपढ़ बना दी गयी है उनके पुरखो के कांग्रेसी राज में, क्या अभी भी फिर वो अपनी दादी, अपने पिता की दुखद हत्याओ का रोना रोयेगी जो की इसने 2004 व् 2009 में रोया था, क्या फिर वो सहानुभूति वोट हासिल कर अपने परिवार को अगले 5 सालो में फिर से देश को लूटने का नया प्लान बनाने आयी है, लेकिन मुझे लगता है आज देश की जनता जाग्रत हो चुकी है, और तो और आज राहुल गाँधी अपने भाषण में अमेठी, रायबरेली की जनता की दुर्दशा का रोना रो रहा था, और इस का भी ठीकरा भी राज्य के मुख्यमंत्री अखिलेश यादव के बजाय वर्तमान केंद्र सरकार पर फोड़ रहा था, इस पप्पू को अपनी पिछले 10 सालों की केंद्र में सरकार होते हुए तब इन जिलों के विकास की याद नहीं आयी, देशवासियो यहाँ सोचने की जरुरत यह है की मोदी के पास खोने के लिए कुछ नहीं है, वो तो राजनीती में भगवान ओघड़दानी की तरह है, अगर मोदी जी को देश की जनता ने फिर से ताक़त नहीं दी तो हमें दुबारा से अपना सिर फोड़ना पड़ेगा, जैसा की बिहार और दिल्ली में सब देख रहे हैं,क्योकि ये लुटेरे देश को फिर से लूट लेंगे, जैसा की कांग्रेसी राज में सभी पञ्च तत्वो में घोटाले हुए, ये कांग्रेसी तो देश के 100 टुकड़े करवा देंगे, अपने प्रधानमंत्री बनाने के लिए, बाकी होनी को कौन टाल सकता है। R.k. Sahu
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From: rsingh305@aol.com <rsingh305@aol.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2020 1:23 AM
To: kumar2786@hotmail.com <kumar2786@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: SADIQ KHAN MAYOR OF LONDON CALLED MAHATMA GANDHI RACISTDear Dr Kumar,Thank you for writing on a topic that is often incomprehensible.
Bhagat Singh was prepared to sacrifice his life while most Indians wished the British well. They even fought Germany and Japan with such zeal and courage that the same amount of effort and sacrifice used for INDIA would have seen Independence a hundred years earlier!
Reflecting on what you rightly say, the only conclusion one can draw is this: Long centuries of slavery make individuals morons and NUMB the collective psyche of a nation to the extent that most would instinctively reject a new idea unless it comes from the dictator, or ruler, ON TOP. Similarly water frozen for a long time becomes permafrost.
Even most intelligent and politically powerful people are worshipping Gandhi. Patriots have placed volumes of evidence to expose the TREASON of Gandhi and Nehru yet Gandhi and Nehru remains beyond reproach. One can see their NAMES stuck on many public buildings and events.
Hindu collective psyche is likely to remain damaged beyond recovery - at least in our life time! Decades of frustration with Nehru's Constitution has also not moved a single MP at Lok Sabha to present the Bill for its reform or revision.
We just have to watch and grin. Hopefully the thaw will begin and there will be the dawn of a new Age in Bharat. That day is bound to come. We can live and die happily with the thought that the seed you and other patriots are sowing will grow to be big TREES. The only worry can be this: that the trees may not become ISLAMIC FLAG over Delhi ONCE AGAIN!
best regardsrajput11 June 2020-----Original Message-----
From: Kumar Arun <kumar2786@hotmail.com>
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Sent: Wed, 10 Jun 2020 16:48
Subject: Fw: SADIQ KHAN MAYOR OF LONDON CALLED MAHATMA GANDHI RACIST
Dear Maj. Rajput,
I commend your resilience and educating others on Gandhi and his dubious role in partition of Bharat into two. Is this not so unfortunate that most Hindus of your time as well as today, have not tried to learn the truth behind the role of Gandhi in making of corrupt Nehru as first PM of free India? Regardless, why Hindus of today still carry love & respect to those in politics who knowingly demand Hindus in India to follow Gandhism? This is why I asked a simple question (highlighted mail copy below):
Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2020 6:17 PM
Subject: Re: SADIQ KHAN MAYOR OF LONDON CALLED MAHATMA GANDHI RACIST~~One Must Ask To Self, If Fake Mahatama Gandhi Was So Wrong Then How His Followers Can Be Right~~~~
The moment one speaks or writes against Gandhi followers, he/she becomes a subject of ridicule and rebuke, why is so in India?--Dr. K Arun
From: rsingh305@aol.com <rsingh305@aol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2020 2:25 PM
To: bgthattey@gmail.com <bgthattey@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: SADIQ KHAN MAYOR OF LONDON CALLED MAHATMA GANDHI RACISTGandhi is blamed or praised for this or that.I would blame him for PARTITION that broke up India in the most disgusting, insulting and treacherous manner- FOR EVER.
India was an ancient civilization enjoying world-wide respect and renown but could be killed like a rat in the end- her people, so reduced & demoralised, that none lifted a finger to save her in original glory and decent BORDERS.
The finger of blame does not point to Jinnah. As a Muslim he did "what comes naturally to Mohammed"!
The finger of blame also does not fall on Nehru. As an unscrupulous ambitious young upstart he could be sidelined by the towering top leader of all-India stature, GANDHI, who had great hold over the masses. Not only we, whose fate hanged in balance, but the whole world looked up to him (Gandhi) to put his foot down, and avoid the disgusting break up of the sub continent. That is why (YES, THAT IS WHY) we do not see the statues of Jinnah and Nehru in London or Washington, but Gandhi's!
All he had to say, looking in the eyes of Viceroy Mountbatten, just as Nehru was looking in the eyes of Edwina, Mountbatten's wife, at that time, or declare "fast unto death!", our India would have been saved in perpetuity with frontier at Khyber Pass!
How is it then, that as a seasoned politician and a Barrister-at-Law to boot, Gandhi could not fore-see the consequences of India's BOGUS, ILLOGICAL, SECTARIAN (COMMUNAL) Partition and his own moral death, and "BLACKENED FACE", due to HIGH TREASON against India and the brazen BETRAYAL of her people?
He was not a teenager or a young man to err or blunder in politics but at SEVENTY-EIGHT (78) a mature and seasoned politician who stood on the rock of well respected doctrine of Secularism and could easily outsmart his opponent Jinnah who stood on the thin ice of Islamic fundamentalism and could be humiliated before the Viceroy.
How could Gandhi "dump" every advantage on his side, dump his patriotic instinct, and not stand up to the enemy? How could he not foresee the main consequences of Partition, being the permanent rift, suspicion and animosity between those who "conquered" Lahore and those who surrendered Lahore, between those who were exterminated in Lahore and those who FLED Lahore?
How is it that Gandhi, by now embellished by titles of "Bapu", "Rashtrapita", and "Mahatma", could not foresee the immense bloodshed of the innocent, and the anger in Bengal, Kashmir and Punjab over his silently accepting the new "bogus and provocative" borders, dividing Land and People in these grand Provinces, to destroy their economy and their populations who were treated worse than the cattle (Yes, worse than the CATTLE) if you recall the million strong panic stricken stampedes of those desperately trying to escape to safety, having lost everything?
What did "Independence" mean to Gandhi? We, the lucky survivors from West Punjab, North Kashmir and East Bengal, know what it meant!
We DEMAND that every Gandhi statue ought to be removed or demolished in Partitioned India and his name removed from every PUBLIC building and event in BROKEN Bharat.
Why it has not been done so far, BEGGARS BELIEF!
rajput10 Jun 2020
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Sent: Wed, 10 Jun 2020 13:24
Subject: Re: SADIQ KHAN MAYOR OF LONDON CALLED MAHATMA GANDHI RACIST
Very TrueFor the whole of his life Gandhi worked for the benefit of the Muslims...With Nehru as close assistant.Ended up in giving Pakistan to the Muslims.Nehru gave them free trips to Mecca_Medina in Saudi Arabia.Also wanted to give a Cash Present of Rs.55Crores to Pakistan. Threatened with a Fast Unto Death but did not succeed.
--On Wed, Jun 10, 2020, 12:55 PM Deva Sarran Samaroo <devasamaroo@hotmail.com> wrote:
--So true! We will wait and see as I was involved in the 1966 to Get Mahatma Gandhi STATUE IN TAVISTOCK SQUARE as I was a member of Labour Party and met Harold Wilson few times in this regard.
I was also the community health officer for Camden at that time and lived just near there
Deva
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Subject: Re: SADIQ KHAN MAYOR OF LONDON CALLED MAHATMA GANDHI RACISTIn the current drive to bring down all the statues of alleged or real racists and colonialists Mahatma Gandhi may not be spared either. | wonder which historical figure will survive the puritanical fury of the new image-breakers (i.e. iconoclasts)/.
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On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 12:38 PM Deva Sarran Samaroo <devasamaroo@hotmail.com> wrote:
--Daveji
And every one who responded. It is an opportune moment for us to react and take action against anti Indian anti Hindu forces.
Deva
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Subject: Re: SADIQ KHAN MAYOR OF LONDON CALLED MAHATMA GANDHI RACISTLaughable person the so-called Mayor imposed on gullible Britain. The fellow is wrong by default who cannot distinguish between Gandhi and the devils.Whatever Gandhi was he was one of the most well known persons in world... Gandhi did not attack with swords or abduct women or lie in wait to loot, plunder and kill. Gandhi was a frank person and very small persons can't sit in judgement to assess a man like him. Impostors and terrorists should never never be trusted.Their statements carry no conviction, however no man is faultless. Gandhi might have given some odd statement in South Africa for which I think he should have apologised and he might had done so. Possibly he might have been misquoted. But one thing is certain, he was not looting India or chasing caravans or abducting pretty European women what state sponsored pirates were doing who were sorted out by Presidents Madison and Monroe. I am talking about pirates of Atlantic let lose by Barbaric stares of North Africa. Take it lightly. Truth is powerful and is difficult to counter.
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Subject: SADIQ KHAN MAYOR OF LONDON CALLED MAHATMA GANDHI RACISTMAYOR OF LONDON SADIQ KHAN CLAIMS MAHATMA GANDHI WAS A RACISTS
It was shocking to hear the London Mayor, the Paki, Sadiq Khan this morning amid the Black Lives Matter, and statues being vandalised.
He brought the Great Gandhi's name into this and said MAHATMA GANDHI as being a racist.
This is most irresponsible and inappropriate of him.
This Paki Sadiq Khan should know that it is only because of Gandhi that Pakistan took birth by dividing Indian State.
The U.K. Paki's London Mayor have started a movement since 2015 to demonise Gandhi.
These jealous Paki's can't bear to see a Hindu and an Indian being given so much honour throughout the world.
This racist Sadiq Khan is not a fit person to be the Mayor of London.
We call on all Indians irrespective of country of origin India, East Africa,Fiji, Guyana and the Carribbean Countries not to vote for him next year for LONDON MAYOR--
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