There are people, especially youngsters, who can be swayed. But these rabid dogs are beyond cure. They are better dead than alive.
On Sun, 14 Jun 2020 at 10:17, sanjeev kulkarni jeevkulkarni@yahoo.com [aryayouthgroup] <aryayouthgroup@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Xavier,I have been abused on various forums by "scholars" whoused foul language when they could not reply. Some evensuggesting that "this bastard Sanjeev should have beenstrangulated immediately after birth". And he was 'defending'Vedas! If they do not have anything to answer and their holyscriptures stand shattered, the only thing left for them to sayis "banish this fellow from the group, ignore him, teach him alesson etc." In return, I ignore them and continue my writings.Up to the age of 13, I was also like this as I unquestionablybelieved what was told to me. But I continued to read and askthe questions and never fooled myself. I hope my writing willwake up at least one or two honest mean out of 100, who will seethe point and change. 1-2% success rate should be consideredvery good in this world. Fortunately, we are no more in the erawhen scientists were poisoned for contradicting holy scriptures.But many people wish they were when they read what I say.I will continue my fight no matter how much abuse they dish out.SANJEEVOn Sunday, 14 June, 2020, 07:25:58 am IST, Xavier William varekatx@gmail.com [aryayouthgroup] <aryayouthgroup@yahoogroups.com> wrote:Sanjeev,There is no cure for rabies except death. Similarly fascists will never change their opinion. Even if they read something it is done only to confirm their rabies and not to find the various perspectives on any subject. So dont advise them. Go on hammering them with reason and show them how to conduct a proper dialogue instead of harping on their mad believes which have no evidence whatsoever.On Fri, 12 Jun 2020 at 23:10, sanjeev kulkarni jeevkulkarni@yahoo.com [aryayouthgroup] <aryayouthgroup@yahoogroups.com> wrote:Dear Amarnath ji,Pls do not be afraid of changing your fond beliefs or whateveris handed over to you from childhood as conventionalwisdom. We have moved from stone age only because weadopted what was proved and did not rely on our superstitions.We no more consider lightening, floods, accidents as punishmentfrom god as the stone age people assumed. Because now weunderstand the scientific phenomenon behind every happening.I have given you point-wise reply. But you are going aroundwith personal issues like ego, accepting something etc. Keepaside personalities and concentrate on the subject proper.Read the list of 'fallacies of critical thinking' to start with andsharpen your logical thinking ability. It will liberate you.The people on this forum cannot reply rationally and that iswhy resort to abuse. Have you seen any scientist abusingEinstein because he modified Newtonian physics and made itmore accurate even at the speed of light? Why you shouldresot to abuse if someone comes up with different theory?If you do not agree with it, just point out flaws in it with facts,figures, logic, evidence and rational reasoning. Personalattacks only show the intellectual shallowness of the person.If you have any different story about the big bang, come upwith it and submit it to some scientific journal. You willunderstand where you stand.SANJEEVOn Friday, 12 June, 2020, 10:35:20 pm IST, amarnath gupta amarnath_gupta2003@yahoo.co.in [aryayouthgroup] <aryayouthgroup@yahoogroups.com> wrote:Dear Sanjeev ji ,Namaste. I was bit busy . You have cleverly avoided saying-whether you too can haveshortcoming of any type ! If this is not SUPER-EGO ,what is it . I like to know the person I like to talk to. Too many people around !"Nothing is outside of the universe. " Depends how you define /understand Universe. I may /not agree with Your Definition . Learn to give some credit also,that wont make you small . I am not pontificating,only suggesting .You have not seen BIG Bang ! It is a hypothesis. If you are not a White-Supremacist ,what is the wisdom in not accepting -there could be other views on the creation . Do not read ,because you havea diabolical distaste - a sure sign of a bloated personality ! Do you sometime like to see a mirror ?On Friday, 12 June, 2020, 12:06:21 am IST, sanjeev kulkarni jeevkulkarni@yahoo.com [aryayouthgroup] <aryayouthgroup@yahoogroups.com> wrote:You have not said anything on my detailed reply. Anyproblem?SANJEEVOn Wednesday, 10 June, 2020, 11:19:44 pm IST, amarnath gupta amarnath_gupta2003@yahoo.co.in [aryayouthgroup] <aryayouthgroup@yahoogroups.com> wrote:It seems you have become habituated and inebriated with your KNOWLEDGE and pride . Soon all thatmay be undone ! Time has powerfuL HANDS . Off with you bloated balloon . Empty vessel sounds much !On Wednesday, 10 June, 2020, 10:59:25 pm IST, sanjeev kulkarni jeevkulkarni@yahoo.com [aryayouthgroup] <aryayouthgroup@yahoogroups.com> wrote:Stick with the subject and discuss specific points if you havesomething to say on that. Talking about ego, pride, toomuch of anything etc. are personal matters and not the subjectof discussion. This is called fallacy of critical thinking.SANJEEVOn Wednesday, 10 June, 2020, 03:20:20 pm IST, amarnath gupta amarnath_gupta2003@yahoo.co.in [aryayouthgroup] <aryayouthgroup@yahoogroups.com> wrote:Dear, I did not expect you to equate me with a boy in Madarsa . This is height of insolence-only shows your ego & false pride in so-called knowledge -which you want to arrogantly display ! How can we discuss in such a situation!"If anything existed ,scientists would have investigated " . Think-- Is there no scope of any investigation in future . This amounts to saying -there is no future. TOO much EGO -Sanjeev . Cut it out . Do that , please. TOO MUCH OF EVERYTHING IS BAD .On Wednesday, 10 June, 2020, 03:01:04 pm IST, sanjeev kulkarni jeevkulkarni@yahoo.com [aryayouthgroup] <aryayouthgroup@yahoogroups.com> wrote:There are two types of short-comings. One, what youhave understood is flawed due to faulty methods andunsubstantiated assumptions, combined with super-stations and wishful thinking passed as 'wisdom'-is one type.Second, is what you have understood by experimentationand other scientific validations but there is a gap betweenwhat we have achieved and what additional details need tobe filled to complete the picture to make it more accurate inmore circumstances.These are two types of short-comings and should not betreated one and the same.Scientifically Shakti is 'ability to do work' only. There isno other definition nor other existence. If anything existed,scientists would have investigated and written papers on it.In Maharashtra, we call it Ardhanarinateshwar.I understanding of big bang is based on scientific literaturewritten by prominent scientists, which is peer-reviewed andauthenticated by many experiments.. There is no scope forany imagination.From where you got the idea that any astronomical eventis subject to philosophical treatise? What tools philosophersuse to verify their findings and what experimented areconducted to understand the phenomenon? You are blindlydepending on philosophy which is ill-equipped to deal withthis subject. Your dependence on philosophy is in the samecategory of madarsa teachers who teach their students thatearth is stationary and sun goes around it because Koran saysso. Instead of Koran only change, you have made is philosophy.Qualitatively both the statements are of the same class.SANJEEVOn Wednesday, 10 June, 2020, 01:17:15 pm IST, amarnath gupta amarnath_gupta2003@yahoo.co.in [aryayouthgroup] <aryayouthgroup@yahoogroups.com> wrote:Agreed ,everyone has shortcomings ;do you agree ,about yourself ?Shakti is Nirakar . What is Gun , we have to first clarify ! If it is quality or nature- again Shakti is Nirakar !Pl comment .It is Ardhanarishwar,NOt what you have written.Who told -Big Bang is this or that ? You imagine things ?Do you know where the phenomenon of Big Bang ,as told by Westerners and blindly accepted by so-called intellectuals , is discussed in much details in the greatest philosophical treatise ! Can you name it ? If yes ,do let me know ,please !On Tuesday, 9 June, 2020, 11:47:28 pm IST, sanjeev kulkarni jeevkulkarni@yahoo.com [aryayouthgroup] <aryayouthgroup@yahoogroups.com> wrote:Amarnath ji,If Ishwar is nirgun nirakar how Shakti or Ardha narinateshwardescriptions are applicable to it? Also, the big bang has no otherattributes like intelligence nor it is creator itself.. Big bang willnever show interest in your life, whereas Ishwar or god bywhatever name is supposed to take that interest.Can discuss anything without hate, but believers are longon abuse and short on rational arguments and when cannotreply, start abuse as argument.SANJEEVOn Monday, 8 June, 2020, 10:14:26 pm IST, amarnath gupta amarnath_gupta2003@yahoo.co.in [aryayouthgroup] <aryayouthgroup@yahoogroups.com> wrote:Very correct, Sanjeev ji -it should be "Her " . The SHAKTI is feminine ! Also , ARDHA NAARISHWAR comes to mind ! You may like to know what is BIG BANG in our philosophy ! No need to be hateful or prejudicial !On Sunday, 7 June, 2020, 05:03:04 pm IST, sanjeev kulkarni jeevkulkarni@yahoo.com [aryayouthgroup] <aryayouthgroup@yahoogroups.com> wrote:Try using "Her" instead of "Him" to be more appropriate forits supposed role..Nothing is outside of the universe. And nothing that existedbefore the universe can interact/influence anything afterthe big bang. In other words, your creator is not existentfor us for all practical purposes.SANJEEVOn Sunday, 7 June, 2020, 01:11:46 pm IST, amarnath gupta amarnath_gupta2003@yahoo.co.in [aryayouthgroup] <aryayouthgroup@yahoogroups.com> wrote:There has to be a word from those available in the language .This language is far too inadequate .For e.g,there is no word for DHARMA . There could be many examples ! Word Salesman means a lady too.In addition , it is rather childish to say ," .....in the universe ." What is bigger ? Universe is the creation of the Creator !On Sunday, 7 June, 2020, 12:40:48 am IST, sanjeev kulkarni jeevkulkarni@yahoo.com [aryayouthgroup] <aryayouthgroup@yahoogroups.com> wrote:Why call it "He"?SANJEEVOn Saturday, 6 June, 2020, 11:57:12 pm IST, amarnath gupta amarnath_gupta2003@yahoo.co.in [aryayouthgroup] <aryayouthgroup@yahoogroups.com> wrote:You are right . There is nothing . NO THING. He is not a thing ,the way things are known ! Any way , there is no use telling !On Saturday, 6 June, 2020, 11:55:07 am IST, sanjeev kulkarni jeevkulkarni@yahoo.com [aryayouthgroup] <aryayouthgroup@yahoogroups.com> wrote:There is nothing in this universe which fits this descriptionand possesses these attributes.SANJEEVOn Saturday, 6 June, 2020, 09:35:37 am IST, 'K. C. Garg' kcg831@yahoo.com [aryayouthgroup] <aryayouthgroup@yahoogroups.com> wrote:--The greatest knowledge is the knowledge that there is so much more to know and the greatest discovery is the discovery that there is so much more to discover"All new ideas good or bad, great or small start with a one-man minority" - anonymousA man without god is a man. A God without man is nothing!!
"All new ideas good or bad, great or small start with a one-man minority" - anonymous
A man without god is a man. A God without man is nothing!!
__._,_.___
Posted by: Xavier William <varekatx@gmail.com>
| Reply via web post | • | Reply to sender | • | Reply to group | • | Start a New Topic | • | Messages in this topic (2) |
KERALITES - A moderated eGroup exclusively for Keralites...
To subscribe send a mail to Keralites-subscribe@yahoogroups.com.
Send your posts to Keralites@yahoogroups.com.
Send your suggestions to Keralites-owner@yahoogroups.com.
To unsubscribe send a mail to Keralites-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com.
Homepage: http://www.keralites.net
To subscribe send a mail to Keralites-subscribe@yahoogroups.com.
Send your posts to Keralites@yahoogroups.com.
Send your suggestions to Keralites-owner@yahoogroups.com.
To unsubscribe send a mail to Keralites-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com.
Homepage: http://www.keralites.net
.
__,_._,___
No comments:
Post a Comment