Monday 1 June 2020

[www.keralites.net] Re: [aryayouthgroup] covid 19 and ayurvedha

 

You write about Ayuveda; " This discipline is the world's oldest scientific medical system based on a robust philosophy of Sankhya and Nyaya darshana."
What evidence do you have for such a boisterous assertion. We see dogs and cats eat grass occasionally. People say that it is their medicine for stomach problems. Similarly, chimps and gorillas consume certain plants occasionally. We really do not know why they do it.
Archeologists have found herbal potions dating back to over 40000 years. Probably people have been treating themselves with herbal medicines even before we evolved into homo sapiens a hundred thousand or more years ago. Nonetheless Sanghis brag unabashedly about their heritage in everything as if they alone had a glorious past while all the others were semi-apes. Of course people who have nothing to brag about always brag about their heritage.
If you go to Hong Kong you can see shops selling Chinese local medicine. They also use animals in their concoctions. Thus they use rhino horns for impotency. I saw in one shop, dried sea horses floating in some preservative.I learned costs about 1.5 lakh rupees per kg. The Chinese also have a heritage which is as old as ours. But they dont brag ad-nauseam about their heritage. Instead it is a matter of time before they lead the world while we sit and brag about our rishis and their meditations.
Similarly Ginseng is one of the most potent of herbal medicines and Koreans have been using it for thousands of years. In like manner, all societies have their own indigenous medicines. But the Sanghis have to brag about themselves in everything as if to prove that we are better than all the others "The Sara Jeshan Se Acha" compleX which is nothing but an inferiority complex.
My father died of brain cancer in 1967 when he was 54. As a last resort we consulted an Ayurvedic. He diagnosed it as Vaatha. My mother had a stroke in her late seventies. Again the Ayurvedics diagnosed it as Vaatha and treated her for a month without any positive result..
I do not understand why the Sanghis are fixated on the past. We want the latest cars, the latest mobiles, the latest of everything and that too foreign brands. After exploiting whatever modern science and technology have to offer, these hypocrites crow about their ancestors who did not even have the technology to stitch a pant or shirt.
There is no modern medicine and alternate medicine. If something is proven to cure diseases it is medicine. But quacks know their medicines cannot stand up to the rigorous quality control procedures that modern medicines undergo. So they brag and boast about their concoctions without any evidence. Let Ayurveda provide evidence for their effectiveness instead of boasting that it is thousands of years old.
Even if Ayuveda is the oldest system in the world it does not mean it is the best. I am much older than Bill Gates, Hussein Bolt and Messi. That does not mean that I am better than them at anything.
So Sanghis please stop this meaningless bragging and boasting. Bragging and boasting are not going to get us anywhere meaningful.

On Mon, 1 Jun 2020 at 12:06, Mohan Natarajan mohannatarajan2001@yahoo.co.in [aryayouthgroup] <aryayouthgroup@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

DEAR ALL

AN EXCELLENT POSTING FROM ANOTHER GROUP REGARDING

AYURVEDA FOR COVID 19 CRISIS

N MOHAN


  • An appeal for Ayurveda amid COVID-19 crisis


    Sheela Rani Chunkath





    31 May 2020

    [This discipline is the world's oldest scientific medical system based on a robust philosophy of Sankhya and Nyaya darshana]

    The debate rages on. The Indian Council of Medical Research (ICMR), which believes in Western medicine, has been given the authority to decide on how and what Ayurvedic medicines should be given to Covid-19 positive patients.

    A government that bans cow-slaughter because cows are venerated in the Vedas, should on the other hand encourage Ayurveda because it has roots in the Vedas.

    This discipline is the world's oldest scientific medical system based on a robust philosophy of Sankhya and Nyaya darshana.

    As Dr Ninivaggi has brilliantly put, "the world view of Ayurveda is essentially unitary and dynamic. There is no part of the totality of existence that is functionally separate or disconnected from any other." 

    There is constant interaction among the three doshas: vata, pitta and kapha. These are regulatory principles of the body's psychophysiological functioning.

    Any experienced Ayurvedic vaidya would first attempt to ascertain the cause (nidana) of the disease, the premonitory symptoms (purvarupas), the symptoms (lakshanas) and attempt to treat the patient based on their desha (place), kala (season) and prakriti (nature).

    Why would one expect ICMR to know about how an Ayurvedic vaidya goes about treating a patient. 

    There are Ayurvedic pharmaceutical companies, which have turnovers in crores, and presumably, people are buying Ayurvedic medications because it is effective.

    This despite repeated attempts to plant stories in the mainstream media about how the kidneys/liver of Mr X failed because of Ayurvedic medications. 

    I haven't seen a single report in the media of a qualified Ayurvedic vaidya prescribing medicines to a patient, who while consuming it as per the prescription, comes to great harm.. 

    I have also seen reports in the press that Ayurvedic medicines contain metal. But did we not make it clear that some formulations contain metal?

    Ayurvedic metals are treated/purified and made into bhasmas or preparations that are assimilable by the body. 

    I find that in the treatment of Covid-19, zinc has been prescribed. Is that not a metal? Why is there no hue and cry about it being administered to Covid-19 patients without randomised control trials?

    How is it that when the western medical establishment does such things people turn a blind eye? The only reasonable explanation is that we are still slaves to the Western white skin ethos.

    All our yogas and formulations are in the public domain and nobody gets to profit if we show by treatment that Sudarshan Churana or Vyagradi Kashayam is effective in treating Covid-19 patients. 

    A vaccine, on the contrary, can make billions for the pharma companies which would have us believe that without it, we would all die. In India, at least so far, the mortality is something that should not cause panic.

    The government of India's controls on travel, both national and international, have perhaps led to lesser spread. Maybe Indians have better immunity.

    Their diet, however poor, contains immune-enhancing spices. Maybe the climate is unfavourable for the spread of Covid-19. Maybe we have a less virulent strain. We need to discuss these factors and advocate medicines from our ancient systems.

    Charaka, as far back as 2,000 or more years ago, postulated yogas or combinations of drugs which could be used for treating the vitiation of each dosha.

    Nagarjuna, a famous Buddhist physician, enumerated the various herbs and mineral drugs which could be used to treat fevers, respiratory infections and the likes. Nagarjuna also put down the various shodanaor purification procedures that needed to be done before metals are to be used. 

    I would not attempt to perform complicated heart surgery because I learnt to do an anorectal procedure in BAMS.

    Similarly, a cardiologist should not presume to know what works and what doesn't in Ayurveda. And what needs to be proven for new molecules discovered yesterday, need not be proven for Ayurvedic drugs that have been in use for centuries.

    That is its strength but what's being done is that Ayurvedic vaidyas are being dragged down to the level of Western physicians who have a pharmacist's approach to the treatment of disease.

    If it is disease A, give medicine X. It is this treatment methodology which needs medical trials, not Ayurveda.



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