Tuesday, 18 February 2020

[www.keralites.net] Re: [aryayouthgroup] CAA PROTEST CONTINUES ACROSS TAMIL NADU - TNIE FRONT PAGE SCREAMING 17/2/20

 

"Est pop of illegal Bangladeshi in India: 24 million. Total pop of Bangladesh: 163 million. 24/160= 15%"
Coming from Mohan the rabbid, liar these estimates are vastly exagerrated or cooked up to justify his rabbid views.
Bangaladeshis have fled to India right frrom 1947 and most of them are Hindus. But vis-a-vis the CAA, we are now discussing the refugees after the   Bangala war of Independence in the early 1970s.
According to https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/discuss-bangladeshi-refugees-in-india.596194/ 
1970s Another major influx into India came in 1971 during the Bangladesh Liberation War, when Hindu refugees escaped systematic mass killings, rapes, lootings and arson. It is estimated that around 10 million East Bengali refugees entered India during the early months of the war, of whom 1.5 million may have stayed back after Bangladesh became independent."  This only 1.5/160 which is less than 1% of the Bangladesh population.
So Mohan take some injuctions for rabbies before you post such rabbid estimates.

On Mon, 17 Feb 2020 at 07:47, Mohan Natarajan mohannatarajan2001@yahoo.co.in [aryayouthgroup] <aryayouthgroup@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

DEAR SIR

        IN THE NAME OF CAA, INIMICAL FORCES BOTH WITHIN INDIA AND OUTSIDE
        INDIA, ARE TRYING TO DESTROY HINDUS, HINDUISM, INDIA AND PLAN FOR
        ANOTHER TRUNCATION
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Most of the protesters  do not know wHAt is CAA.  Even many of the educated people are unable to

explain, what is CAA, what is NPR and what is NCR. Even great GOENKA'S great paper, TNIE

has not told the readers what is CAA and HOW IT WILL NOT AFFECT THE EXISTING CITIZENS.    

This, despite the fact that the top man in the EDIT BOARD, is a refugee from Pakistan.From Dera

Ghazi Khan.  Had muslims been good, he would not have migrated to India - so also millions of

others.Definitely vested interest, coupled with pumping of money from christian NGOs and ISIS

and Saudi, must be playing havoc with Indian sovereignity.

Let us see, who all supported the CAA since 1947

Mahatma Gandhi -,16/7/1947 and 21/7/47 - told that the persecuted minorities should be allowed

to settle down honourably in India

5/11/1955 - Nehru Khan endorsed the above views, saying that the persecuted minorities should be

allowed to settle down in India.

5/3/1964 - Gulzarilal Nanda echoed the above points

20/4/2012 -GOGOI CONGRESS CM of Assam wrote to Manmohan singh, the then PM about the

necessity to accommodate the persecuted minorities in India

3/12/1974 CPI MP Bupesh Gupta - persecuted minorities should be allowed to settle down honourably

in our country

CPI conclave in Amirtasaras in 1958 -same as above

Goutham Debb - CPI Maarxist - same as above in 1971

25/4/2012 - CPI Marxist - tabled a resolution in Parliament on the aforesaid lines

30/3/1988 - sukomal Sen CPM - same views

18/12/2003 - Manmohan Singh - persecuted minorities should be allowed to settle down honourably

in India

22/5/2012 - KARAT of CPM - wrote to PM Manmohan singh, on the above lines

9/4/2012 -CPM CONCLAVE IN Kozhikode - resolution on the above lines

See the fun - now all are  PROTESTING AGAINST CAA - why?

Despite assurances from PM Modi and HM Shah that the existing citizens will not be affected

by CAA - there are protests.  Why? MODI should be thrown out and hinduism should be

exterminated so that ISLAM OR CHRISTIANITY CAN TAKE OVER.

In Pakistan, the Hindu population at the time of partition was around 18% and now it is less

than 1%. WILL THE ANTI-CAA MOB EXPLAIN, WHERE THE HINDUS HAVE GONE?

In Bangladesh, the hindu population at the time of partition was around 33% and now it is

less than 7%. WHERE ARE THE HINDUS ? WHAT HAPPENED TO THEM?

In Afganistan, the hindu population at the time of partition was 7 lacs and now it is less than

7000. What happened to the Hindus?

Now let us see, what is happening around:

1. Italy is deporting ,5,00,000 illegal immigrants. Willl the italians Maino, Raul vinci and
Bianca fight for them?

2. Poland said - not a single muslim immigrant  will be ALlowed inside. Why?  
will our commies protest?

3. Middle East depOrted 40,000 pakistan muslims. What Imran Khan can do?

4. Saudi Arabia deported Rohingya muslims and they said, no Rohingya will be  alowed
inside Saudi?  Can somebody create a Shaheen Baugh?

5. During his tenure, OBAMA deported 4 million illegal entrants. Nobody said anything.

6. Trump is also doing the same thing. He is building a wall in Mexico border. Last 
month some 3000 Indians were deported for want of visa, and other documents. Can somebody
create a scene in AMERICA?

7. IDI AMIN threw out 50000 Indians - who were living in Nigeria for generations. The whole
world kept quiet.  No Shaheen Baugh.

8. China has a border with 17 countries. Can anybody enter? If somebody ventures, then he can
reach the heavenly abode ..  So strict are the chinese. They have ID for every citizen.

Iam furnishing below, a startling information on Bangladeshi refugees. In fact, 15% of Bangladeshi
population has infiltrated into our country. It is a CALAMITY. sEE THE TWITTER

Est pop of illegal Bangladeshi in India: 24 million. Total pop of Bangladesh: 163 million. 24/160= 15% Imagine getting another country to fund the education, Healthcare, support, and livelihood of 15% of your poorest. Then imagine your "wretchedness", or lack thereof.

unquote

Why we have kept quit when hindus were genocided by Pakistan
and Bangladesh?

Why we kept quiet when Hindus in Kashmir were massacred and
ethnic cleansed and 4 lac hindus are refugess in their own land.

Ambedkar told gandhi to send back all muslims to Pakistan for he
felt that muslims can never co-exist with hindus.Why Ambedkar was
ignored by gandhi khan, nehru khan and Md.Mountbatten?

Huntington said that muslims can never co-exist with other religionists.
why?

Prof.Prithipal singh of the Alberta University, Canada said that muslims
will always behave like an oppressive majority and a turbulent minority.
why?

Why muslims are not migrating to 58 muslims countries.  Muslims have no nationhood. They want to
go to a non-muslim country and islamise that country also by demographic and cartographic aggression.

Amir Khan leads a 7 star life in Mumbai so also Naseeruddin Shah. Both say, hindus are bigots, they
discriminate and all that non-sense. What prevents them from legally migrating to any of the 58 muslim
countries and enjoy a paradise free from hindus and hinduism?

Recently TRUMP said - we are christians, we speak english.We cannot adjust to the vagaries of
immigrants.  It is the immigrants who have to adjust to american way of life.  If you cannot, you are
FREE TO GET OUT. CAN A SHAHEEN BAUGH BE CREATED IN AMERICA?

Time has come for hindus to tell the minorities - you stay here if you like India.  If you feel 
uncomfortable, then you can go to a country which you like and enjoy life. NEVER DO DIVISIVE
AND UNPATRIOTIC ACT. If another truncation comes, the  human losses will be enormous.
LET US NOT ALLOW THIS TO HAPPEN..   

Kejri became CM because he got majority.  Since hindus are in majority, stop abusing hindus,
hinduism, India etc. Let us all live peacefully. NEVER TAKE HINDUS FOR GRANTED.
HINDUS ARE A SLEEPING TIGER.

N Mohan

A POSTING FROM ANOTHER GROUP - SPANISH COURT SAYS - illegal  IMMIGRANTS HAVE TO GO

Spain: European Court Approves Summary Deportations of Illegal Migrants

by Soeren Kern
February 17, 2020 at 5:00 am

  • The Strasbourg-based court — which has jurisdiction over 47 European countries, and whose rulings are binding on all 27 member states of the European Union — ruled that in order for migrants to benefit from certain human rights protections, such as access to lawyers, interpreters and the right to remain in Europe, they must first enter European territory in a legal, as opposed to an illegal, manner.

  • The ruling is being viewed as a major victory for those who believe that sovereign nation states have the right to decide who is and is not allowed to enter their territory.

  • "The ECHR's ruling determines that a nation state has the right to defend its borders. When someone is dedicated to violating those borders, the nation state has the right to return that person to their place of origin as quickly as possible." — Iván Espinosa de los Monteros, spokesman for the Vox Party, November 13, 2020.

  • It remains unclear if the ECHR's ruling will have a deterrent effect. Migrants, often using extreme violence, are increasingly using the tactic of mass attacks against the border fences in Ceuta and Melilla in an effort to overwhelm border police.

Migrants, often using extreme violence, are increasingly using the tactic of mass attacks against Spain's border fences in Ceuta and Melilla in an effort to overwhelm border police. During the past 18 months, thousands of migrants equipped with gloves, spike shoes and makeshift hooks have attempted to scale the fences. Pictured: The border fence between Morocco and Ceuta, a Spanish exclave in North Africa. (Photo by Jorge Guerrero/AFP via Getty Images)

In a landmark decision that will have potentially seismic implications for immigration policy in Europe, the European Court of Human Rights (ECHR) has ruled that Spain acted lawfully when it summarily deported two migrants who illegally tried to enter Spanish territory.

The Strasbourg-based court — which has jurisdiction over 47 European countries, and whose rulings are binding on all 27 member states of the European Union — ruled that in order for migrants to benefit from certain human rights protections, such as access to lawyers, interpreters and the right to remain in Europe, they must first enter European territory in a legal, as opposed to an illegal, manner.

The ruling, which effectively authorizes European governments summarily to deport illegal migrants immediately at the border, transfers some decision-making powers on immigration back to European nation states. The ruling is being viewed as a major victory for those who believe that sovereign nation states have the right to decide who is and is not allowed to enter their territory.

The Spanish case dates back to August 2014, when hundreds of migrants from sub-Saharan Africa stormed the border fence at Melilla, a Spanish exclave in North Africa. After spending several hours perched on top of the fence, two men, one from Ivory Coast and the other from Mali, climbed down and were handcuffed by Spanish border police, who handed them over to Moroccan authorities.

The two Africans said they were never given a chance to explain their personal circumstances or receive help from lawyers or interpreters. In February 2015, with the help of human rights lawyers, the pair took their case to the ECHR.

In October 2017, the ECHR ruled that summary deportations were a violation of European law. The Court determined that Spanish border police had failed to verify the identity of the migrants, or to provide them with access to lawyers, translators or medical personnel. It ordered Spain to pay each of the men €5,000. In December 2017, Spain's previous center-right government appealed the ruling.

On February 13, 2020, the ECHR unanimously reversed its previous judgment. In a statement, it explained:

"The Court considered that the applicants had in fact placed themselves in an unlawful situation when they had deliberately attempted to enter Spain on 13 August 2014 by crossing the Melilla border protection structures as part of a large group and at an unauthorized location, taking advantage of the group's large numbers and using force. They had thus chosen not to use the legal procedures which existed in order to enter Spanish territory lawfully. Consequently, the Court considered that the lack of individual removal decisions could be attributed to the fact that the applicants — assuming that they had wished to assert rights under the Convention — had not made use of the official entry procedures existing for that purpose, and that it had thus been a consequence of their own conduct.

"In so far as it had found that the lack of an individualized procedure for their removal had been the consequence of the applicants' own conduct, the Court could not hold the respondent State responsible for the lack of a legal remedy in Melilla enabling them to challenge that removal."

The ECHR added that the two men could have applied for visas, or for international protection, at an official border crossing or at Spanish embassies or consulates in Morocco or in their home countries.

The ECHR's decision has been greeted with outrage by human rights groups and other proponents of uncontrolled mass migration to Europe. Amnesty International, in a statement said:

"Today's judgment is very disappointing. These two men were marched back to Morocco as soon as they entered Spain, with no chance to explain their circumstances, no chance to request asylum, and no chance to appeal their expulsion.

"That the court has today decided that Spain was within its rights to do this, because the men entered the country irregularly, is truly a blow for refugees and migrant rights. People must have access to asylum procedures and to appeal any decision, regardless of how they entered the country they wish to seek sanctuary in."

Wolfgang Kaleck, General Secretary of the European Center for Constitutional and Human Rights, said that the ECHR's ruling will be perceived as a "carte blanche" for summary deportations elsewhere in Europe:

"Push-backs at the border to Morocco are a longstanding Spanish practice, which has become a model for other states along the European Union's external land borders."

Writing for the constitutional law blog, Verfassungsblog, Spanish lawyer Carlos Oviedo Moreno, accused the ECHR of racism:

"The ECHR...distinguishes between legal and irregular entry into the territory of a State and attaches to it the consequence of placing some people outside the protection of the European Convention on Human Rights....

"The consequence of such reasoning is perpetuating borders as no-rights places for very particular groups: (black) migrants, people from the Global South, the undesirable minority excluded from the benefits of global free movement encouraged for everybody else."

Others welcomed the ECHR's decision. "Borders must be defended," said the Mayor-President of Melilla, Eduardo de Castro, of the libertarian party, Ciudadanos (Citizens).. "Countries must defend their sovereignty and territory."

Officials in Ceuta, another Spanish exclave in North Africa, also welcomed the ECHR's decision. Alberto Gaitán, spokesman for the Ceuta government, which is led by the center-right Popular Party, said:

"The ruling protects our right and obligation to preserve and defend the integrity and inviolability of our border as well as the actions carried out by our border police and national police, who have our respect, backing and support."

Congresswoman Teresa López, who represents Ceuta for the conservative party Vox, the third-largest party in Spain, added:

"The ECHR has sided with common sense in the defense of a well-defined border, which is one of the essential conditions for the stability of any state. The court has responded with common sense to the fact that the massive and violent assaults on the borders of Ceuta and Melilla are collective actions in which the assailants consciously and voluntarily place themselves in a situation of flagrant illegality.

"In reality, the so-called express deportations consist of each country being able to defend its borders and its inhabitants with all the legal and proportional means at their disposal. Since its creation, Vox has called for Spanish police and border guards to be provided with all material and legal means to protect the Spanish border."

Vox parliamentary spokesman Iván Espinosa de los Monteros described the ruling as "a victory for Spain and for the rule of law." He added:

"The ECHR's ruling determines that a nation state has the right to defend its borders. When someone is dedicated to violating those borders, the nation state has the right to return that person to their place of origin as quickly as possible."

It remains unclear if the ECHR's ruling will have a deterrent effect. Migrants, often using extreme violence, are increasingly using the tactic of mass attacks against the border fences in Ceuta and Melilla in an effort to overwhelm border police. During the past 18 months, thousands of migrants equipped with gloves, spike shoes and makeshift hooks have attempted to scale the fences. Notable recent incidents include:

  • July 26, 2018. At least 800 migrants from sub-Saharan Africa tried to scale the fence at Ceuta. A total of 602 managed to enter Spanish territory. The migrants used unprecedented violence against Spanish law enforcement. Eleven police officers were injured when migrants attacked them with quicklime, homemade flamethrowers, sticks and sharp objects, as well as with urine and excrement.
  • August 22, 2018. A total of 119 migrants successfully scaled the fence at Ceuta, after taking advantage of a diminished police presence on the Moroccan side of the border during a Muslim holiday.
  • October 21, 2018. More than 300 migrants tried to scale the fence at Melilla; 200 migrants, mostly from sub-Saharan Africa, successfully entered Spanish territory.
  • May 12, 2019. More than 100 migrants tried to scale the fence at Melilla; 52 migrants, mostly from Cameroon, Ivory Coast and Mali, successfully entered Spanish territory.
  • August 30, 2019. More than 400 migrants tried to scale the fence at Ceuta; 155 migrants, mostly from sub-Saharan Africa, successfully entered Spanish territory.
  • September 19, 2019. At least 60 migrants tried to scale the fence at Melilla; 26 migrants, mostly from sub-Saharan Africa, managed to enter Spanish territory.
  • November 18, 2019. A people smuggler transporting 52 migrants — 34 men, 16 women and two children — reached Spanish territory after driving his van at full speed through the border gate at Ceuta. The driver, a 38-year-old Moroccan with French residency, was arrested more than a kilometer inside Spanish territory. The migrants, who claimed to be from Congo, Guinea and the Ivory Coast, were taken to a migrant processing facility in Ceuta.
  • January 19, 2020. More than 250 migrants tried to scale the fence at Ceuta; two dozen migrants and police officers were injured.

Spain's new government, comprised of a coalition of Socialists and Communists, recently removed razor wire, known as concertina wire, from the border fences along Spain's frontier with Morocco. The government ordered its removal after migrants who tried to jump the fences suffered injuries from it.

Police and border patrols agents have warned that without concertina wire, the border will become even more vulnerable to mass incursions than it already is.

Vox leader Santiago Abascal said that the government's plan was part of a broader effort to undermine national sovereignty in favor of globalist mass migration. He called for replacing the fences with concrete walls to secure the border better:

"The borders in Ceuta and Melilla are permanently violated by avalanches of immigrants. We are going to propose a reform of the immigration law to be able to expel an immigrant immediately if his documentation is not in order. We believe that the best protection is a concrete wall that is high enough for security forces to control the border."

Espinosa de los Monteros blamed the government for encouraging mass migration. "We are not against immigration," he said during an interview with Spanish public television. "We are not even against the illegal immigrants. It is not their fault that an irresponsible government has called them to come here illegally."

Soeren Kern is a Senior Fellow at the New York-based Gatestone Institute.




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