No doubt that Islam is declared the divine religion through revelation of Quran and divinely guided attributes of Prophets not only Muhammad pbuh but all others before him.Quran also declares other known and unknown Scriptures as divinely originated but subsequently distortedly by followers for ulterior motive.Superiority of Islam is in its purity of divine source.However social pluralism in terms of human rights is well established fact as preached and practiced by the Sufi saints all over the world.Islamophobia is political creation by Western colonialism.All religions including Sanatan Dharm of standardized Hinduism discriminates between followers of other religions by derogatory remark of Malechh..Differenting between followers of Sanatan Dharm is also their for Shudras.Even their entry temples is not allowed.Why to blame Islam for declared superiority.Christisns also claim that Religion of the son of God Christ is the only to provide salvation and make attempt for religious conversion. Shuddhi of non hindus by putohit is with the same spirit to purify human being following other religions whether Islam or Christianity or even Buddhism.Based on this argument of claiming once faith not equal to others Christians and Buddhism as well as Sanatan Dharm fall in the same category.Social pluralism is the core of peaceful coexistence and Islam and Quran does not hinder it.The evidence is Muslim rulers and nonmuslim majority of India.On Mon, Jan 20, 2020, 8:29 PM Suresh Vyas skanda987@gmail.com [TheBecoming] <TheBecoming@yahoogroups.com> wrote:If you want to keep anti-Hindus in your email distribution, then delete my email from the list.jaya sri krishna!On Mon, Jan 20, 2020 at 7:52 AM Viswa Ghosh viswa.ghosh@gmail.com [TheBecoming] <TheBecoming@yahoogroups.com> wrote:Remember that all such heinous acts have been committed in the name of some of higher goal. Every religion found justifications from within some scripture or pronouncement. FASCISM, Stalinism, Maoism, the Khmer Rouge, etc., all found justifications by appealing to some higher goal.Not being well read about Islam, I cannot vouch for its inherent inequality or equality, but I can definitely vouch with full confidence the inequality embedded in MANUvaad / BRAHMANvaad.In practice too, MANUvaad / BRAHMANvaad has been criminal, to say the least, for more than 2000 years!For me hinduism stripped of MANUvaad / BRAHMANvaad could well be one of the most attractive faiths. Lokayata / Charbak and Samkhya philosophies are not only excellent from an historical perspective but also for a modern nation that wants to build a sturdy philosophical foundation from which she can claim a strong presence among a community of nations.Such a confident, modern nation has NO PLACE FOR HATRED AGAINST OTHER HUMANS on the basis of RELIGION, RACE, ETHNICITY, LANGUAGE, COLOR, or VARNA (JAATI).On Mon, Jan 20, 2020 at 10:13 PM devindersingh gulati dgulhati@yahoo.com [TheBecoming] <TheBecoming@yahoogroups.com> wrote:You have missed my point entirely Mr.Ghosh. The atrocities you mention are not on account their scripture tells tells them to. Those atrocities are attributable to human nature. Here it is scripture that impels them. I have said if the CAA excludes Islam it is because of the provisions in its scripture. You cannot treat a religion equal to other religions that has inequality built into its structure. The Islamic religion is anti-constitutional. The constitution lays down equal treatment to all. This particular religion in its foundational ethics says other religions are less equal. Let Muslims address that first is what I say.GulatiOn Monday, 20 January, 2020, 7:26:17 pm IST, Viswa Ghosh viswa.ghosh@gmail.com [TheBecoming] <thebecoming@yahoogroups.com> wrote:Dear Devinder-ji,Seems you have not stepped out of your community to make friends with other communities, including muslims.There are very few faiths and philosophies that have not perpetrated heinous crimes against the other faiths throughout history:
- Protestants against Catholics and vice versa
- Buddhists (supposed to have been born off the teachings of a peace-loving Buddha) perpetrated similar crimes against the people in Tibet and now against Christians and Rohingyans in Myanmar
- Upper case hindus have known history of criminality against the so-called "single-born" and (under Sen dynasty) against Buddhists after Pal dynasty collapsed (when Bakhtiar Khilji attacked northern India)
- Christians in general against other faiths and original inhabitants of the Americas, Africa and Australia
- Upper caste amongst the SGPC in Punjab have a record of crimes against the women of workers from Bihar who work their lands...
I am not giving details about Islamic oppressions because you are already well versed in it.Given my limited knowledge, Jainism maybe the rarest of rares which has no known history of criminality.A modern nation, like Britain, does not discriminate between Islam, Sikhism and Christianity. But when people start discriminating on the basis of ethnicity, religion and race, civilized people feel extremely disgusted and shameful..Do we not condemn incidents in the U.S. that resulted in killings of Jews and Sikhs? If we do, we cannot be partial in our approach toward all faiths.To me, I shudder to think of a situation where 20 million Indians will be in detention camps simply because they cannot produce documents that our corrupt officials will demand from them once CAA is let lose on the people.VgOn Mon, Jan 20, 2020 at 3:45 PM devindersingh gulati dgulhati@yahoo.com [TheBecoming] <TheBecoming@yahoogroups.com> wrote:CAB, therefore, is in violation of the very principles of "equality before law" and "right to equality".
Yes everyone should be treated equal PROVIDED they treat others equal.Should religions be treated equally?Yes, IF they treat other religions equal.Islam says there is only religion acceptable to Allah.This assertion in the Quran has been the basis of heinous crimes against non-Muslims throughout the history of Islam.1989 saw the mass exodus of Kashmiri pandits from their homeland IN INDIA.The INDIAN GOVERNMENT could only be a mere onlooker.The persecuted Shias and Ahmedias uphold the same Quran that says Islam is only religion acceptable to Allah.No Shia or Ahamadi protested the events of 1989.The Muslim community should be turning inards rather than protesting the CAA.There should be debate within Islam around the world if indeed the Quran is GOD GIVEN.They should be looking at excising that portion of the Quran that is objectionable to other religions.The reason is as soon as Muslims cross 20% of the population in any country there is social unrest.Merkel will face the same problem in future that India faced in the past.
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GulatiOn Sunday, 19 January, 2020, 10:45:25 pm IST, Viswa Ghosh viswa.ghosh@gmail.com [TheBecoming] <thebecoming@yahoogroups.com> wrote:Many keep asking why should we reject CAB. After all, it is meant to make it easier for persecuted Hindus from neighbouring Pakistan, Bangladesh and Afghanistan to become Indian Citizens. This is claimed even as Hindus in India continue to face persecution!This requires a little more explanation. Hence, this long mail. Whether you agree or not, please become better informed so that YOUR GOVERNMENT DOES NOT FOOL YOU.Basics
- Lets start with the basics. Every modern nation needs to know who and how many families and heads reside in very district and ward of the nation (assuming that the ward is the smallest administrative unit of the nation).
- Every individual resident of a ward is registered by the ward and a proof is provided of such residence. (the resident may be a citizen or a foreigner).
- This enables the ward to decide what kind of and how much resident taxes to impose on the earning members of the ward so that the ward can provide various civic amenities to its residents.
- As families and individuals move from one ward to another the registers of both wards get updated.
- This also assumes a process in place that allows non-citizens to obtain work permits in order to continue earning a living in India as foreigners eligible to work in India.
NRC in Assam
- In 1985, Rajiv Gandhi goofed up on two accounts in Assam, which created a recipe for humanitarian disaster.
- First goof up. For political expediency, he agreed to the demands of the agitating All Assam Students Union (and later Asom Gana Parishad) without opening up a more challenging dialogue that was required to bring in the vision for a future of India into the 21st century and beyond.
- If in late 20th century any community felt threatened by the influences of other cultures settling in their locality that needs to be considered appropriately, thoroughly discussed in the right perspective and solutions created. Given that we are moving more and more into a multi-ethnic, multi-linguistic, multi-religious, and multi-racial civilization, autarky of any culture is not only not possible but also needs to be addressed in a manner that seeks not to eliminate mixing of cultures but supports mixing in a manner that enriches both.
- There was no provision in the accord to grant work permits to long-term residents so that working populaces could continue make their living as they had been doing for years, if not decades.........
- Instead the pact created the need for pushing people out of employment and into detention camps, which would burden the Indian tax payers!
- To address such issues Rajiv Gandhi and the Congress needed to be visionaries and deeply committed to multi-ethnic, multi-linguistic, multi-religious, and multi-racial vision for India and the world. (Aside: Singapore under Lee Kwan YEW addressed this challenge in 1965 when suddenly Singapore was pushed out of Malaysia. Angela MERKEL has taken up a similar challenge in Germany where she is considering to settle 800,000 immigrants from the middle east – a huge challenge for any nation. That's what the future of our planet urges us to do; re-think communities, rights and duties of minorities and find innovative solutions that have never been considered before. In general, post-WW2, people are much more mobile, which will grow not lessen. In addition, the climate crisis will force migrations by the millions!)
- Second goof up. A nation and society that has rarely issued birth and death certificates, and other documents related to residency permits, employment permits, and still struggles to do so, going straight from registration of people to identification of citizenship was foolish nightmare, designed for failure and utter chaos. All these essential processes must be in place and working effectively and efficiently before the big jump from registration of residents to citizenship determination is made. (Aside: An investigative journalist once published his own death certificate to highlight how corrupt our system is in India.)
- The previous register was created in 1951 and had not been updated when this 1985 accord was put in place. The result was an utter chaos. Fast forward to August 2019, 1.9 million people were found to be non-citizens out of a total of approx. 33 million residents. Of these 1.9 million, 0.7 were Muslims and rest were hindus.
- The "flawed" results shook everyone! Many persons of prominence – including a sitting MLA – were now no longer Indian citizens! Kargil war veterans were no longer Indian citizens!
BJP Enters the Fray
- This was now an opportune moment for BJP, RSS, VHP to enter the scene. And, true to their narrow-mindedness they came up with a double-flawed solution to ensure that no Hindu (especially) could be declared a non-citizen of India. To this a few other non-Muslim religions were added – Buddhists, Christians, Jains, Parsis, & Sikhs.
- Capitalizing on an already flawed process, a double flawed process was set in motion by BJP, which has the recipes for humanitarian disaster of much larger proportions.
- There is no provision again for granting employment permits for those who are suddenly going to be declared non-citizens. Hard working residents will suddenly find themselves in detentions camps.
- CAB ignores all the persecuted from our neighbours, including the long settled Tibetan refugees in many cities across north India.
- While the supreme court will decide the constitutionality of CAB, and there are many moot points that the court will have to reasonably settle (especially against Article 14 and "Reasonable Classification"), this law is clearly against the spirit of our constitution, discriminating against a particular religion.
- Leaving out any community from the protection of law, or leaving them out from 'Right to equality before law' or from 'Equal protection of law' cannot pass the test of "Reasonable Classification". (explained below in more detail)
- As a special law, CAB needs to protect every resident in India, whether they are citizens or not. Article 14 extends equality before law and right to equality to every resident in India.
False Claims by BJP
- Advocates of CAB, especially the BJP leaders, have claimed that the CAB is being passed and implemented to support persons who face religious persecution in neighbouring countries. It is well known that there are Muslim communities being persecuted in Pakistan, Myanmar and China. Tamilians have been persecuted in Sri Lanka, Muslims and atheists are persecuted in Bangladesh (Taslima NUSREEN of Bangladesh, a well-known litterateur of Bangladesh has had to seek Sri Lankan citizenship because India refused to grant her citizenship). CAB deliberately wants to ignore them all and focus only on Pakistan, Bangladesh and Afghanistan.
- Consider a hypothetical possibility that U.S.A., Canada and western nations decided that all religions will be granted work permits and also citizenship but not hindus. How would hindus from India (especially) and from other countries react? Welcome such laws?
Here is a primer of the context:
① What is religious persecution? Harm beyond harassment or basic discrimination – harm amounting to persecution which can be due to cumulative discrimination or harassment as well, usually physical harm or violation of fundamental rights that is faced by people on the grounds of their religion or sometimes the religion they are assumed to follow (whether they do or not).
② What framework does the CAB provide for addressing victims of religious persecution? It does not provide any. There is no framework or standard for deciding who qualifies. THE CAB DOES NOT ATTEMPT TO IDENTIFY OR LET PEOPLE SELF-IDENTIFY THAT THEY FACED OR EXPECT TO FACE IN FUTURE ANY RELIGIOUS PERSECUTION. It does not have a framework for processing these claims, for verifying it, for adjudicating who is a refugee due to religious persecution – it only states who should become citizens from neighbouring countries. The CAB basically skips any attempt to address the very thing it claims to address.
③ Why not Atheists or Muslims? According to BJP leaders since the 3 countries are Muslim-majority, Muslims don't need asylum. This is patently false. The US was settled by boatloads of pilgrims who were Christians escaping Christian countries. RELIGIOUS PERSECUTION DOES NOT HAPPEN ONLY ACROSS RELIGIONS BUT ALSO WITHIN RELIGIONS – consider Bahujans, Dalits and Adivasis who are apparently within the fold of Hinduism and yet oppressed and persecuted for millennia and are still being hounded by MANUvaad / BRAHMANvaad !
④ Similarly, Shias are directly targeted by Taliban and ISIS in Afghanistan and Pakistan, where they have been massacred, including specific Shia festivals being bombed, Shia "Takia Khana"s have been attacked and Hazaras who are not even Shia are assumed to be Shia and killed! The same is true of Ahmaddiyas in Pakistan.
⑤ Shias are being given asylum in Canada, who follow the Aga Khan and are seen as non-Muslim by many Sunnis and their leaders. This has been deliberately ignored by CAB.
⑥ Myanmar is seeing persecution of Rohingyans and Christians. Bibles were banned in the country, and Christians have been flocking to India for many-many years to escape persecution.
CAB, therefore, is in violation of the very principles of "equality before law" and "right to equality".
- CAB does not pass the tests against constitutional violations:
① Is this discrimination against a single community REASONABLE? (persecuted population in our neighbouring countries cannot be classified either on the basis of varna or jaati, or religion, or race or ethnicity or language or gender)
② Is it JUST? (antipathy against Muslims cannot be a JUST cause)
③ Is it ARBITRARY? (antipathy against Muslims and ignoring refugees from Myanmar and other neighbouring countries is clearly ARBITRARY)
④ Is any community being given SUPERIOR or INFERIOR status deliberately? (there cannot be cherry picking on the basis of varna or jaati, or religion, or race or ethnicity or language or gender to decide who among illegal immigrants can be granted Indian citizenship)
BJP's Bigger and Deeper Design
This bigger design of BJP, RSS and VHP is starting to unfold.
- There are much bigger and deeper designs that we need to recognize and be aware of. The more Modi pays obeisance to Ambedkar the greater the threat to Indian constitution.
- Ambedkar's constitution is one of the walls that stands between Indian people and MANUvaad / BRAHMANvaad which is repeatedly trying to rear its ugly head. Ambedkar's constitution is one of the key guarantees that stands to prevent institutionalization of strong discriminatory and illegal practices against Dalits / Bahujans / Adivasis that continue to plague India.......
- This bigger design is, therefore, to uproot Ambedkar's constitution and replace it with one that sits comfortably with MANUvaad / BRAHMANvaad.
- CAB has been designed to reinforce Jinnah's two-nation theory, which RSS, VHP and BJP's predecessor Jan Sangh has always subscribed to.
- BJP's / VHP's / RSS' hatred for Indian Muslims is immensely more because bulk of Indian Muslims are converts from the already oppressed sections of Dalits and Bahujans – the so-called "single born" people.
- If the key provisions of Ambedkar's constitution are gradually eroded away, it will be a matter of time before a draconian, backward looking MANUvaad / BRAHMANvaad is put in place, reinforcing:
① An unscientific world view;
② Promotes discriminations against women; and
③ Promotes discriminations against the so-called "single born".
- Combine MANUvaad / BRAHMANvaad with the FASCISM's ultra-nationalism and dictatorship of the powerful over people, India will be a living hell for the poor, the Dalits and Bahujans, and for faiths other than Hindu.
- Can we imagine pushing 20 million or so people (2 Crore or more!) into detentions camps all over the country? Given our track record of ill-treating weaker sections, it simply horrifying to imagine what it will be like with 20 million languishing in detention camps!
- Mob lynching, complicit police force are already in play in the streets of India. A weak and a corrupt state, is now being thoroughly manipulated to put fear into the hearts of those who would like to criticise and oppose BJP, RSS, VHP.
- Almost every criticism is now being categorized as "unpatriotic" accompanied, in many cases, with the retort 'go to Pakistan' or threats of physical harm. The ULTRA-NATIONALIST nature of this regime is now starting to become venomous.
- Police action is now overtly against the victims and not against those who are perpetrating violence on Dalits / Bahujans / Muslims.
Is NPR a constitutional violation of any kind? It is NOT a violation but we need to note that NPR does not follow from the Census Act of 1948. Nor does it follow from the Citizenship Act.The anxiety that follows from NPR is a click away from NRC.
The additional 8 new questions added to the 2010 NPR, now requires those who were born after July 1st, 1987, to also declare their parents' place and date of birth. Wonder, how many Indian residents know their own parents' place and date of birth? Ours is still a nation that continues to be governed by an administrative cadre, the IAS, most of whom have the mind set of that of a tax collector divorced from the residents / citizens of this nation. For the past 70 years we not put in place simple and MUST HAVE processes that will automatically register the dates and places of birth of those born in India, whether they were delivered in a hospital or in village homesteads or on the streets of some Indian city.Lastly, CAB violates BJP's own stated position of uniformity of civil codes for all communities irrespective of religion.--First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—Because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
(Martin Niemöller - a German Theologian, 14 January 1892 – 6 March 1984)
--First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—Because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
(Martin Niemöller - a German Theologian, 14 January 1892 – 6 March 1984)
--First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—Because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
(Martin Niemöller - a German Theologian, 14 January 1892 – 6 March 1984)
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