Ranjeethji,
You have no right to question the priestly class. Just swallow whatever they pronounce from the pulpit or they will tear you apart in this world or in the next.
These fools do not deserve an answer.
If Caste is by virtue or skill then all the 100 odd kauravas and Pandavas must have belonged to different castes?
How did Ram find out Shambuk was a Sudra? Is not the story of Shambuk part of the Ramayan?
How did Parasuram find out the caste of the Kshatriya women before he slew them? After all women did not have any particular skills in those days.
He also made minced meat of the unborn fetuses in the womb of these Kshatriya women. How did the bloody Brahmin find their caste?
This point of whether caste is by birth or skill has been discussed many times in these fora ad nauseam.
According to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panangipalli_Venugopal Padmabhushan Venugapal was the first Indian surgeon to transplant a heart in Inddia. Now here is this super-duper imposter cardiologist boasting that it was he who did it. If his post is any indication he must have transplanted the heart of a frog at best.
On Wed, 22 Jan 2020 at 06:40, ranjeet singh live_by_dharma@yahoo.co.uk [aryayouthgroup] <aryayouthgroup@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Dear Shree Deva Samaroo jee,
We are glad to know that you too are a Medical Doctor. We are also glad to learn that you had done the first heart transplant in this country. Dr Raj Pandit is a well known Consultant Cardiologist and we were a Paediatrician, now retired some four decades ago.
You wrote, you are a Vedic Priest. You must then be an Arya Samajic Priest. We, wish you greater achievements in the Surgical field.
To tell you the truth, Sir, we could not understand the next line of your post wherein you had written; "To as questions where this is said or that is said in a manner that is confounded of pointed ignorance and inquisitive irrelavance." Will you please explain and also tell what this 'confounded pointed ignorance and inquisitive irrelevance' is and also how?
You have claimed: "Nowhere in Valmiki Ramayan caste is discussed where it is mentioned it is Varnic classification". If that is the case, could we know, how was there a mention of a dhobi, a Nishad Raj Guha, a Kevat, Sumant a charioteer, and Bhaats and Vandi Jans in Maharaj Janak's court? Will you please answer and explain?
We are astounded to read your statement that there are no mention of Jatis in Mahabharat? Sir, the words 'Sankar' 'Varna-Sankar' and 'Jati Dharmaah' are there even in the first chapter of Bhagavad Gita, a part of Mahabharat. Are you really sure Jatis are not mentioned in Mahabharat? Could we know who had purchased Maharaj Harishchandra? Was he not a 'Dom'? We can enumerate several and several if you would like us to.
In the end, you write: "So please come clean where I am concern or else I tear you apart". But come clean on what Sir – and why should you, and for what fault of ours should you have to tear us apart? And, please note, you have not answered, nay even touched the points we had raised and the questions we had asked on what you had written? Why? Should you not have?
Thanking you and with kind regards,
Dr Ranjeet Singh
On Saturday, 18 January 2020, 13:52:16 GMT, Deva Sarran Samaroo devasamaroo@hotmail.com [kerala-hindus] <kerala-hindus@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Dear Dr. Raj Pandit n Dr. Ranjeet Singh
I am the original writer of subject matter
WHICH CASTE ARE YOU?
I am a Medical doctor also retired CARDIO THORACIC INVOLVED IN THE FIRST HEART TRANSPLANT . FIRST HEART LUNG TRANSPLANT, FIRST HEART LUNG LIVER TRANSPLANT, FIRST DIAPHRAM TRANSPLANT, FIRST PIGGY BACK CARDIOPLASTY TRANSPLANT , FIRST BABOON-CHILD KIDNEY FILTRATION SYSTEM IN UK.
I do not show my ignorance. I a Hindu Vedic Priest also.
AS a devout Hindu it is my duty to discus issues that affects my HINDU SOCIETY AND MORE SO MY DHARTI MA KNOWN AS MOTHER INDIA HINDUSTAN.
To as questions where this is said or that is said in a manner that is confounded of pointed ignorance and inquisitive irrelavance.
Rightly so because of what is being asked and in the manner it is being asked behold the asker questioner to be questioned .WHO ARE YOU?
MC VIKRAMJI WAS RIGHT TO ASK WHO ARE YOU?
NOW LET ME EDUCATE BOTH OF YOU .
NO WHERE IN VALMIKI RAMAYAN CASTE IS DISCUSSED WHERE IT IS MENTIONED IS VARNIC CLASSIFICATION .THERE ARE 4 VEDAS AND 42 ANU VEDAS ALL DEALS WITH VARIOUS SUBJECT MATTERS RELATED TO DHARMA, GOVERNING PRINCIPLES OF SOCIETY AND COUNTRY NO WHERE CASTE IS MENTIONED.
THERE ARE 42 CHAPTERS OF THE MAHABHARATA NO WHERE CASTE IS MENTIONED
OUT IF THAT 42 CHAPTERS 18 CHAPTERS IS THE BHAGWAT GITA.( NOT BHAGWAT PURAN)THE BHAGWAT GITA IS DIVIDED INTO THREE SECTION OF 6 CHAPTERS EACH 5 CHAPTERS OF EACH DEALS GYAN, BHAKTI N KARMA. ONE CHARPTER OF EACH IF THE SECTIONS DEALS WITH PURE PHILOSOPHY OF LIFE.
NOW YOU MAY ASK WHY 42 CHAPTERS IN MAHABHARTA AND 42 ANU VEDAS. ORIGINALLY IN THOUSANDS YEARS BC THERE WERE 42 KNOWN ENEGY MATERIAL PRINCIPLES OF MOTHER EARTH.
SECONDLY THAT IS WHY 42 INGREDIENTS MAKE UP SAMAGRI USED IN HINDU RITUALS.
WHY 18 CHAPTERS OF THE BHAGWAT GITA THAT IS 3X5 PANCH THATWAS X 3 GUNAS RAJO, THAMO, SATHO GUNAS == 18.
PLEASE DON'T LET ME TEACH YOU THE DEEP PHILOSOPHY OF HINDUISM
AND AS ONE PERSON CLAIMING THAT YOU ALL MAY BE CHRISTIAN BY BELIEVES POSING WITH HINDU NAMES
IF YOU ARE -- THEN LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING ABOUT CHRISTIANITY WHY DID JOSEPH RAPE MARY AT AGE 15 THEN GIVE BIRTH TO CHRIST. YOU CALL IT VIRGIN BIRTH THAT MEANS INVITRIO FERTILIZATION.
WHEN BIBLE SAY FOR 14 YEARS CHRIST WAS LEARNING CARPENTRY WITH FATHER JOSEPH WHEREAS HE WAS IN INDIA LEANING HINDUISM BUDDHISM AND YOGA .
READ THE HIDDEN YEARS OF JESUS THE CHRIST, CHRIST LIVED IN INDIA. ALL WRITTEN BY WHITE CHRISTIAN PEOPLE
SO PLEASE COME CLEAN WHERE I AM CONCERN OR ELSE I TEAR YOU APART
DEVA
From: nalin parekh nalinparekh@hotmail.com [aryayouthgroup] <aryayouthgroup@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, 15 January 2020, 19:29
To: aryayouthgroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [aryayouthgroup] Re: [kerala-hindus] WHICH CASTE ARE YOU ?
Who is this Dr. Ranjeet Sing?
Has anyone seen him?
Does anyone knows him?
Is it just another fake name for covert Chrislamists?
Just Wondering..Chrislamist comes under all sorts of names, colors and banners..
Nalin
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Subject: [aryayouthgroup] Re: [kerala-hindus] WHICH CASTE ARE YOU ?Shree Deva Sarran Samaroo jee has put a doltish, laughable dialogue in his post when he wrote and asked: "What is your caste"; and then answerd: "Software". He then asked: "What is the caste of your father" and put the reply: "Electrical". Are these, Software and Electrical, castes Sir? Shouldn't names of the caste been a noun? Would you please disclose and tell how is electrical a noun hence name of a caste? We do not understand why are you treating such an important subject of Hinduism as Caste so lightly, in a laughable, childish and irresponsible manner? Sir, if Varnas and Castes are removed from Hindu Dharma, where shall it be? Will you tell where this particular and novel Hindu Dharma, Hinduism is written and propounded?
Next, you divulge and educate: According to Bhagavad Gita, Chapter 4, shloka 13 Caste is based on occupation (work) but not on birth. And then requested – "Share if you agree"..
But we DO NOT and hence, instead ask: Where does that particular shloka of Shrimad Bhagavad Gita say – and in which words does it say that? Would you please point them out and disclose? Which are the words therein which say or mean "but not on birth"?
You have written next: "WHO ARE YOU == OH I MEAN YOUR CASTE. READ CHAPTER 4 and 18 of the BHAGWAT GITA. SO IF AND WHEN YOU DIE ONLY YOUR OWN CASTE CAN TOUCH TO CREMATE/ BURY YOU. BUT REMEMBER AT THAT TIME YOU HAVE NO CASTE." – Shree Samaroo jee, where do chapters 4 and 16 say the above, that you have no caste? Will you please point out and quote those words,and also tell why Narendra Modi should have separate coaches for all the castes you have given numbers of? Have those two chapters of Bhagavad Gita even obliquely said that? Where? If it has not; why did you write all that and tried to misinform and mislead ordinary Hindus? What sort of Hindu Prem and sense of Hindu welfare is this?Thanking you and with kind regards,
Dr Ranjeet Singh
On Saturday, 11 January 2020, 07:41:05 GMT, Deva Sarran Samaroo devasamaroo@hotmail.com [kerala-hindus] <kerala-hindus@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
WHO ARE YOU == OH I MEAN YOUR CASTE:.
READ CHAPTER 4 and 18 of the BHAGWAT GITA
SO IF AND WHEN YOU DIE ONLY YOUR OWN CASTE CAN TOUCH TO CREMATE/ BURY YOU
BUT REMEMBER AT THAT TIME YOU HAVE NO CASTE.
SO PM. NARENDRA MODIJI SHOULD HAVE SPECIAL METRO COACHES FOR EACH OF THE 108 CASTES IN HINDUISM, 54 CASTES IN ISLAM ,AND 52 CASTES IN CHRISTIANITY PLUS COUNTLESS OBC CASTES
SO YOU WILL NEED TO WALK WITH YOUR CASTE ID PLEASE SO METRO CHIEF AND GOD CAN CHECK YOU OUT TO SEE WHICH NARAK METRO YOU NEED TO GO TO.
THUS GOD WILL NEED TO CREATE MORE NARAKS
THUS I PRAY THAT AS HUMAN YOU COME TO YOUR SENSES BE RATIONAL AS NO ONE CAN EXISTS WITHOUT OTHERS IRRESPECTIVE OF RELIGION CASTE CREED NOR CAN HUMAN EXISTS WITHOUT BEES, EARTH WORMS, SNAILS AND OTHER INSECTS AND ANIMALS AS THE POLINATE, FERTILIZE FRUITS TREES EDIBLE PLANTS FOR HUMANS TO EXISTS.....
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"All new ideas good or bad, great or small start with a one-man minority" - anonymous
A man without god is a man. A God without man is nothing!!
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