Monday, 27 January 2020

Re: [www.keralites.net] Re: [TheBecoming] Drawing attention.

 

"For a change ..." What does that imply?

On Mon, 27 Jan 2020 at 08:54, 'G.G. Krishnan' krishnan.gg@gmail.com [Keralites] <Keralites@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

For a change I agree with your observations on this post, Xaviour.

I keenly follow the posts on the subject with amusement!!!
GG

On Mon, 27 Jan 2020, 08:06 Xavier William varekatx@gmail.com [Keralites], <Keralites@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

If a religion gives freedom of thought then it is not a religion, it is logic or rationalism.
If you are a vedic Hindu you have no freedom of thought. Instead you have to accept th Vedas as true. If you are a shivite you have no right to freedom of thought. You have to accept Shiva as god.
So first analyze your own thoughts and criticize your own religion before you criticize others.

On Sun, 26 Jan 2020 at 22:43, Suresh Vyas skanda987@gmail.com [TheBecoming] <TheBecoming@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

Ref. line: " Can the religion change it's basic tenet "Only Islam is acceptable to God"?"

A religion is in its Book. So, it does not change unless a highest religious authority revises it like Pope does to Bible.

Islam created Muslims; Muslims do not create Islam.
Muslims have freedom to quit Islam, unless they fear some other Muslim will kill him, per Koran, for quitting Islam.

Islam does not give freedom of thought, speech and action;
and Islam does not want to give freedom to non-Muslims to practice their religion.
This is outright aggression that cannot be justified in non-Muslim world.
Obviously Islam is not a religion of peace but of war on the innocents.
Islam' complete history shows this clearly.

I noted that in this email distribution there are many Muslims.
So, I ask them: 
- Can you quit Islam fearlessly?
- Do you have authority to revise Koran?
- Is there a highest Islam authority that can revise Islam? If yes, who?
If no, then the non-Muslims have no need to include them in this discussion thread.
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For those non-Muslim countries who have been suffering from Islam or fear Islam,
they have right and ability to declare Islam illegal in their country, as Angola has done it.
I am of the view that non-Muslims need to talk about how to do it, rather than how to reform Islam, which is far beyond their ability.
Some religions create peace for all; 
Islam creates hell for all before they go to Islamic haven to have sex with 72 virgins.

jaya sri krishna!

-sv




On Sun, Jan 26, 2020 at 9:14 AM devindersingh gulati dgulhati@yahoo.com [TheBecoming] <TheBecoming@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

The war against Muslims worldwide is forcing the religion to take a hard look at itself. Can the religion change it's basic tenet "Only Islam is acceptable to God"?

Twenty-first century has just gone past its first fifth. By this time, the 20th century had been through a World War and the Bolshevik Revolution, not to mention the Jallianwala Bagh massacre. By contrast, the present century opened with 9/11 and the encounter with Islamist terrorism has shaped global politics ever since. There is a perpetual war in the Middle East, from Iraq and Syria reaching Iran and Afghanistan.

The Cold War ended last century. Now it seems all the Great Powers are engaged in a war against Muslims worldwide. Russia has its Chechnya, China its Uighurs. France has sustained multiple terrorist attacks this century on civilians. US President Donald Trump is hostile to Muslims worldwide and has just declared his displeasure against Iran. We could, though not very likely, yet end up with a world war in the second fifth of this century.
Why has this happened? Why has the 21st century become so blatantly anti-Muslim? Let's go back to 1920. The oldest Empire in Europe, the Ottoman Empire, fell and with it came the end of Islam's global domination after 1,200 years. The Western world was no longer threatened by Islam on its eastern front.





Gulati



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"All new ideas good or bad, great or small start with a one-man minority" - anonymous

A man without god is a man. A God without man is nothing!!

The greatest knowledge is the knowledge that there is so much more to know and the greatest discovery is the discovery that there is so much more to discover

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