Sunday, 24 April 2016

Re: [www.keralites.net] THe Cow, why do we deem it as holy

 

Dear Mr.Thomas , 
Please don't try to hurt religious sentiments of any community and just try to discuss about health matters.
Medical treatment has several methods . viz, Allopathy, Ayurveda, Unani, Nature Cure, Herbal Cure, Yogasana, Urine Therapy, Cow urine Therapy etc.It is left to the people, which treatment is appropriate and suits them.Allopathy doctor may call Homeopathy as foolishness .Ayurveda is based on Vatha, Kapha, Pitta .In Ayurveda' we call some diseases are due to ' heat'.But in Allopathy , there is no ' heat. cold' etc.Everything is called as infection and antibiotics are given.Homeopathy  is based on principle, ' Cure The Patient/ person, not the disease'and poison is is given in very diluted dosage, called as potency to cure the disease.Each science has its own research and findings/provings and also Ayurveda, Unani, Cow Urine Therapy , Yogasana etc.If you think that cow urine therapy came into existance after B.J.P govt. came into power, it is wrong It has various research centres all over India .If you want anything to tell you can go to the sites and post your comments and file a criminal complaint against the companies who are making research and marketing cow urine.Drinking cow urine or even milk is harmful without boiling   and cow urine, without purification process.
We, Hindus believe that Cow is Holi and we use Cow dung , cow urine for religious ceremony also.Pig is believed as unholi for Muslims.But for Christians and  others, everything is good for eating only.
We Hindus  belive that Ganga Jal is holi.But is very polluted  with harmful chemicals .Still, We Hindus go To Varanasi and take holi bath .Everything is based on faith and nobody has right to comment against religious sentiments and traditions.There are several Divine Cure Centres by Christian Missionariees all over India.and several people go there with faith that they will be  cured without any treatment.Even Ajmer Dargah and several Hindu worship places like Subramanya etc are famous for such miracles.I also Believe in Ajmer Dargah and Vailankanni Mary and Hindu Worship places.Ultimately, it is the faith and belief.Please dont try to hurt Hindu Religious sentiments by comparing cow dung to Dog shit story .As I told you I believe and respect all the religions.Morarji Desai, Mahatma Gandhi etc, were practising self urine therapy.I don't think Mahatma Gandhi was BJP  .If you have any complaint about the Cow Urine Therapy, you can fight it at National level, by writing to Ministry Of Health , Delhi or if you have no faith in Central Govt, you can file public litigation.My wife died due to ovarian cancer and any treatment was not possible, since it was in 4th stage and she died within a week after diagnised and she died of heart attack.Like you, I am also having several Friends who are Oncologists in Mangalore like Dr.Sanat Kumar Hegde and even Dr.B.M.Hegde is my family friend & was my client.I conclude that , We, Hidus believe that Cow is holi, and worship.For Muslims, Pig is unholi, For Christians and others Cow, Pig etc are good for eating only.My counterpart Prof.Narendra Nayak is  a rationalist and he says there is no GOD.He won several national/international awards.He is also from Mangalore
Do you think there that there is no GOD? .If not try to comment on his blog.
Thanks

 M. D. Hegde
MANGALORE
Think Good Do Good
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From: "Thomas Mathew thomasmathew47@hotmail.com [Keralites]" <Keralites@yahoogroups.com>
To: Keralites@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, 21 April 2016 4:50 PM
Subject: RE: [www.keralites.net] THe Cow, why do we deem it as holy

 
Dear Mr. Hegde

I appreciate your beliefs, whether right or wrong, you have the right to have them as long as you do not try to impose them on others. Happy to hear that your sister and niece have recovered from  cancer due to Ayrvedic treatment and nature treatment. But one thing I cannot understand, why you left your wife to die due to ovarian cancer without any treatment. Why you have not tried Ayrveda or cow urine therapy which you are trying to promote for other cancer patients as a panacea, on her. 
 Still my doubts about researches in good labs and acknowledgements from known Oncologists remain pending. 
Let us not further argue on this issue  and agree to disagree on the issue and leave it to the persons concerned to decide whether to resort to cow urine therapy or not for cancer cure, as it is their life at risk.

T.M




To: Keralites@yahoogroups.com
From: Keralites@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2016 15:55:45 +0000
Subject: Re: [www.keralites.net] THe Cow, why do we deem it as holy

 
Dear Mr.Thomas ,
I have gone through your mail.
My reply/response to your mail is given herebelow.
Cow worship is the belief of Hindus and nobody can prevent it.
Eating Cow, Pig etc is  left to to the people and even Hindus also eat and not restricted to any community or religion.Even though I am Hindu, I believe all the religions.I start my day by reading Novena of Vailakanny mother, pray Ajmer Dargah , Shirdi Sai Baba and Hindu Gods.Hence religion is not my subject and I don't post mail against any religion and politics.
Regarding Cow urine therapy , it is not based on Hindu Belief, B.J.P Govt.etc.Even Morarji Desai, Mahatma Gandhi were known for 'auto urine therapy'.I do not know human urine is beneficial or not  and only they can explain.But the Cow Urine Therapy is in use and proved long back and not by The B.J.P Govt or Narendra Modi. Ayurveda , Unani etc are not believed by Western Countries.Even Homeopathy is disputed.I have Facebook group and have 4000 members and daily 40 to 50 members all over the world including Hindus, Muslims, Christians etc are joining.Believing Ayurvedic, Unani, Homeopathy , Cow urine therapy, Human Urine therapy is left to the wisdom of belief of the person.It is well known fact that Cancer patient dies not due to cancer, but as a result of ill effects of Chemotherapy.
My sister is suffering from Breast Cancer and she is taking ayurvedic treatment from Vynad, Kerala and she is completely cured.My Cousin was suffering from colon cancer and he took treatment[ chemotherapy] at Tata Memorial Hospital and he died.
My wife  died due to ovarian cancer and she did not take any medicine.My niece took treatment from one person from Shimoga for breast cancer.It was nature therapy + herbal medicine ans she was completely  cured .If I see the site, there are several cases of success by Cow Urine Therapy,You may laugh at it or call it it as foolish, but several people have tried and they have informed about improvement.My group or mails are not intended for killing people.Cancer can come to anyone, at any age and just by praying God and his miracle is sufficicient  to cure.Ultimately we live on on faith and belief.and not on blind faith.For me, God is is ONE.I have been helping poor people by giving free medicines and advice also.I believe in helping people.Even If I get cancer, I will not hesitate to try Ayurveda , Cow Urine Therapy .Ultimately we are in the hands of GOD.
One such link of Cow urine therapy is is given below.and you can believe it or laugh  at it.
Thanks



 

 M. D. Hegde
MANGALORE
Think Good Do Good
https://www.facebook.com/groups/hegdemd
& Whatsap Group
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From: "Thomas Mathew thomasmathew47@hotmail.com [Keralites]" <Keralites@yahoogroups.com>
To: Keralites@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, 18 April 2016 5:26 AM
Subject: RE: [www.keralites.net] THe Cow, why do we deem it as holy

 
Dear Mr. Hegde

I have regard for you as you search the net and post messages regarding general health etc almost every day. But I am constrained to note that you are too simple to believe that what ever is written in the web pages is true and correct.There is no harm in your postings about Apple Cidar vinegar etc, as even any thing  happens  wrong,  they are not life threatening. But with your statements that Cow Urine can cure cancer patients, you are taking the risk of sending some one to death. 

You talked about 100s of web pages about urine therapy for cancer. In India, the only place where any type of reserach on medicine is being done is in AIIMS. I went through the pages of AIIMS and could not find any  refrence to Urine therapy for cancer. Incidently, it is stated that the cow urine therapy has taken prominence,  after BJP has come to power. I wish to know how many of the BJP leaders are taking cow urin therapy for their problems. 

In my previous message, I have asked two questions, which you have not answered

1. Why the western world has not done any  research on the efficacy of the cow urine for cancer
 2. Will you declare honestly that if you or any of your relatives (God forbid) is affected by cancer, you will not go to any allopathic medicine and will resort to Cow Urine only.

I will end up with a real incident. About 50 years back, one of my neighbours, who is older than me, failed in SSLC  and the father of the boy became very angry and thrashed the boy. The boy out of anger and frustration, plucked an "othalanga' a poisonous fruit and ate it. When his father realised it, he summoned my uncle, the only qualified doctor available in that area and requested for help. He came with  a dark dry powder and declared that it was the poop of dog and mixed with water it was very good in detoxifying "othalanga'.  Hearing that it is made of dog poop, the boy refused to take it, but a few nighbours forced the "medicine" through his mouth. Immediately, he started vomiting and pieces of "othalanga" started coming out. The forcible feeding of the "medicine" continued for three or four times to ensure that no part of "othalanga' remained in the stomach.  Seeing the quantity of the 'othalanga" which came out, the doctor declared the patient to be fit and was given some food, which he reluctantly took.
About a few years back, a similar incident happened. An unwed mother ate "othalanga" with the intention of committing suicide. When she was found unconscious, some neighbours planned to give her " dog shit" treatment as was done by the doctor , 50 years back. I contacted the Doctor and he advised me to take the lady to the nearest hospital as her stomach needs to be washed. When I told him about the "dog shit" medicine , he laughed and said that it was not dog shit, but was  a mixture of some Ayurvedic medicines, which he purchased from the town  and announced it as dog shit to make the boy vomit.  Many in the villlage still think dog shit to be an effective medicine for othalanga poisoning. Some one may post it a web page and it will become cardinal truth for many. 
I said this incident to warn the patients not to be carried away  with the cow fans declaring the cow urine to be a panacea for every disease. It can be the result of such an incident, when dog shit became a medicince for detoxifying Othalanga.
Please note that Mr. Hegde has not declared his allegiance to the cow urin therapy in his case and his family members. He has also not given the list of any reputed research institutes in India or abroad which has done research on cow urine therapy.

T.M


From: Keralites@yahoogroups.com
To: Keralites@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2016 06:40:56 +0000
Subject: Re: [www.keralites.net] THe Cow, why do we deem it as holy

 
If you want I can give 100 sites, and one such site is promoted by the Govt.Of Madha Pradesh .How many people are dying of cancer, even after Allpothy and Chemotherapy and how many people are cured by Cow Urine therapy in India?. Just try to find out.In Western countries , out of every 5 , 1 person is suffering  from cancer or taken treatment for cancer.Apart form Cow urine Therapy, Cancer can be cured by Ayurveda also.You can go through this sites and post of your comments there and you will get the proper reply.Cow Urine Therapy and Ayurveda is not based on blind faith or Hinduism.It is based on research.And it is waste of time to discuss or argue matters in such reputed public group. 

 M. D. Hegde
 MANGALORE
 Think Good Do Good
whatsapp number 90355 30833
 https://www.facebook.com/groups/hegdemd
 www.federationits.com
From: "Thomas Mathew thomasmathew47@hotmail.com [Keralites]"
To: Keralites@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, 16 April 2016 8:51 PM
Subject: RE: [www.keralites.net] THe Cow, why do we deem it as holy
From: Keralites@yahoogroups.com
To: Keralites@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2016 15:23:18 +0000
Subject: Re: [www.keralites.net] THe Cow, why do we deem it as holy
  I have gone through the baseless arguments. Benefits of cow urine etc, is not based on Hindu Faith .It is proved also. There is no meaning in citing mad cow disease of Western Countries. I can give hundreds of sites and the group members can go through them.
Only 2 links are given below
https://www.facebook.com/notes/raghuvir-agnihotri/cow-protection-benefits-as-per-science/443370422366834/
http://www.vedicgiftshop.com/cow-products/panchagavya-uses-benefits-preparation
M. D. Hegde
 MANGALORE
Think Good Do Good
whatsapp number 90355 30833
 https://www.facebook.com/groups/hegdemd
 www.federationits.com
 
From: "Suresh adidev05@yahoo.com [Keralites]"
To: Keralites@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, 13 April 2016 5:00 PM
Subject: Re: [www.keralites.net] THe Cow, why do we deem it as holy There have been a lot of replies to the article on the Holy cow. Some very provocative but the reasons are not very well considered.
Indian cows are different from the western cows, as they are not given steroids nor are they provided food supplements made of chemicals and of animal origin. Apparently an evident cause of 'Mad Cow' disease which haunts only the Western Continent.
Incidence of Cholera in any part of the country cannot be attributed to failure of the cowdung if it is not even used. Villages in India use cowdung on their floors/walls for protection from insects/pests. If their efforts had not yielded positive results they would not be still following the practice.If water in Ponds and rivers get contaminated due to being connected to drains ,you cannot blame the cow, if the poor animal is not even around. Indian traditional Ayurvedic medication has recorded the medicinal values of cow urine and has been used for thousands of years.
My mother had a chronic skin ailment developed in old age and after years of suffering and allopathic treatment got treated by Arya Vaidya Salai by use of medication including cow urine therapy. One of my freinds a diabetic also records the benefit derived out of use of cow urine in the treatment. 
The objective behind the article was to enable understand the value of medication alternatives. To accept or reject is our fundamental right. There is nothing laughable about it. Virtues can be understood only by use. If there is a resistive mindset, it cannot be helped. Please talk to the eminent physicians at Arya Vaidya Shala and understand the virtues of cow urine therapy and the ailments they can heal, as i am not an authority on the subject. Regards,
 V.Suresh
B-83, Sector-27, Noida(U.P.),201301
Mob :+91-9910500219
Landline :0120-4376782
On Tuesday, April 12, 2016 2:56 AM, "SHANKAR MAHADEVAN mahaprem@hotmail.com [Keralites]" wrote:
Thank you very much for this wonderful information
Regards
Mahadevan

 
From: Keralites@yahoogroups.com
To: Keralites@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2016 18:23:42 +0530
Subject: RE: [www.keralites.net] THe Cow, why do we deem it as holy
A funny read.  If cow is bestowed with divine powers how do you explain 'mad cow' disease?  You visit any local animal healthcare center run by the Government and you will find cows afflicted with various types of ailments.

Nature does not fork out differential treatment to any one creature or plant life.  Everything is created equal and has varying dates of expiry. Animals do not worship. They do not build temples,  churches or mosques.  They do not have any caste system. They do not amass anything for progeny. Man is something special. He does everything that goes counter to the nature.  
Padmanabhan Iyer

 
From: Keralites@yahoogroups.com
To: Keralites@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2016 12:37:04 +0000
Subject: [www.keralites.net] THe Cow, why do we deem it as holy
 "Cow is just an animal like a hen or goat... then why is it revered and why one should not kill and eat it?"

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Cow is also an animal, but... a cow has many specialities that no other animal (not even human beings) has in this world.

This is the reason that Hindus consider cow as 'mother' after their own mother, and pray to the cow with respect calling it "go-matha".
These are some truths about go-matha.
If a cow eats something poisonous by mistake, and we drink its milk, will we fall ill? To find out, one cow was regularly fed a particular quantity of a poison every day.
After 24 hours, its blood, urine, dung and milk were tested in a lab to check where the poison could be found. In this way, the tests were done not for 1 or 2 days, but continuously for 90 days in All India Institute of Medical Sciences (AIIMS) New Delhi. The researcher did not find any trace of poison in milk, blood, urine or dung of that cow.
Then where did this poison fed for 90 days go? Just like Lord Shiva held poison in his throat, the go-matha hid the entire poison in her throat. This is a special quality that no other animal has.
This is the only creature that inhales oxygen and also exhales oxygen.
Cow milk has the quality of countering poison.
There are diseases that medical science has not yet understood; urine of Go-matha has the power to cure them.
If cow-ghee and rice are cooked together, two powerful gases called ethylene-oxide, propylene-oxide are released. Propylene-oxide is the best gas used for creating artificial rain.
Cow-urine is the world's best killer of microbes
With medicines  made using cow dung and cow urine, stomach-related ailments can be cured. 
We can save ourselves from radio-waves by plastering the home floors and area outside home with cow-dung.
Cow-dung has the power to destroy the microbes causing cholera.
If 10 grams of cow-ghee is put in fire (yagnya), 1 ton of oxygen is generated.
If you feel it useful, pls share it with your contacts...
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